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Forex Futures Forum Archive for 07/21/2009

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Vienna GD 20:53 GMT July 21, 2009
AAPL might lit a small fire under indices in asia ... good night too, have to get up early tomorrow!

gl & gt to you KL!

London Mamun 20:52 GMT July 21, 2009
ADD SNP AT 958 AND DOW 8942 STOP TOMORRWO

London Mamun 20:51 GMT July 21, 2009
buy eur and gbp against USD

London Mamun 20:49 GMT July 21, 2009
GD
Taken risk of 600 point.
lets see tomorrow
good night

kl kl 20:48 GMT July 21, 2009
Mamun, GD

The way futures are trading its saying some good and some bad apple....I just short above 8930 cover 8920 until cows come home....

Vienna GD 20:39 GMT July 21, 2009
Be careful ... won't be surprised to see AAPL 160 tomorrow ... kiddin of course ... really?!?

Vienna GD 20:38 GMT July 21, 2009
With AAPL up now ... save to add a DOW short ... those apples could fly rather high ... though da DOW underperforming (due to other disappointing earnings?) is encuraging ... huch ... ????

London Mamun 20:37 GMT July 21, 2009
GD
AAPL position is safe.
Nothing fantastic, PEOPLE WILL TAKE PROFITE FROM AAPL SHARE tomorrow

wish to see 145 at 3 pm tomorrow

Vienna GD 20:36 GMT July 21, 2009
should have bet, both bets would have earned some nuggets ... but that is against my rules, as i see it as gambling.

Vienna GD 20:33 GMT July 21, 2009
AAPL is shakin da markets ... down, up, down, up ...

London Mamun 20:33 GMT July 21, 2009
AAPL fall to 149-----

London Mamun 20:32 GMT July 21, 2009
sold USD/YEN at 93.73

Vienna GD 20:23 GMT July 21, 2009
YHOO went the way expected ... AAPL????

kl kl 20:22 GMT July 21, 2009
Dow spoke up now spoke down....spooky....day....i eat the apple...ok cover 1/4 Dow now to buy a few boxes of FUJI apple to eat...8922....rest 4 pips stop profit

Vienna GD 20:18 GMT July 21, 2009
i'll wait for AAPL ... that could spook da DOW 20-30 pts higher ... hope so .. not for KL (;-)

kl kl 20:17 GMT July 21, 2009 Reply   
lucky can get out with profit....now chance to short again for a bit more...no more long term...take the 50pips and run next time.

In short Dow 8934....cover later tomorrow....Bears must be hurting but I can bear it....LOL ninja will revert back to ninja...+1 better than -1.....remember the ninja rule

Vienna GD 20:16 GMT July 21, 2009
if even yhoo tops estimates ... i'm gonna change my mind and gonna be a bull too ... LOL

Vienna GD 20:13 GMT July 21, 2009
makassar alimin 18:45 GMT July 21, 2009
YEN is honest: Reply
GD, only thing is expect the unexpected and that applies both to bulls and bears. Sometimes the most illogical thing is also the most logical one when it comes to the market. For the moment I am just expecting DJI to close near 8870 and then tomorrow anything can happen.

-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

!!! Alimin - congrat to that call !!!

I made a similar call on the DAX appr 4 hours ago ... LINK

Should have made a 2nd thought on da DOW too. Because where da DAX goes, also da DOW goes.

GVI Forex john 20:10 GMT July 21, 2009

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20:07

 USD

pips

10yr

bp

2yr

bp

Stox

 

pts

USD

 

 

3.46

-15

0.91

-6

 

 

 

EUR

1.4204

22

3.37

-5

1.24

-4

DAX

5094

64

GBP

1.6439

105

3.80

-3

1.21

1

FTSE

4481

38

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CHF

1.0673

2

2.28

-1

0.50

1

SMI

5636

8

JPY

93.72

48

1.37

5

0.28

1

NIK

9652

257

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CAD

1.1057

10

3.42

-8

1.20

-2

TSE

10507

-22

AUD

0.8145

16

5.52

-10

4.01

-3

ASX

4051

0

NZD

0.6537

27

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CNY

6.83

3

SSEC

3213

-54

 

DJIA

8888

46

Gold

948.82

1.63

HSI

19502

-1

 

S&P

955

4

WTI

64.72

0.39

 

 

 

 

NAS

1912

8

London Mamun 20:05 GMT July 21, 2009
may lose 600 point or make 1100 point

Vienna GD 20:03 GMT July 21, 2009
no trade - if asked i would have shorted YHOO and longed AAPL (;-)

London Mamun 20:01 GMT July 21, 2009
my stop as before and snp 963

sold aapl at 51.35

Vienna GD 19:58 GMT July 21, 2009
but stopped at BE.

Vienna GD 19:57 GMT July 21, 2009
mamun - will you hold a dow short overnight? I was stopped right now.
Consider to wait and short higher - AFTER AAPL earnings.

You view?

London Mamun 19:47 GMT July 21, 2009
Lloyds to Write Down $82 Billion by 2010, Chen Says (Update3)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=ar9W7sv_Atns

U.K. Budget Deficit Swells as Recession Reduces Taxes (Update3)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=aUkrd7_4GWwI

GVI Forex john 19:41 GMT July 21, 2009

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21-Jul-09

EURUSD

USDJPY

USDCHF

GBPUSD

USDCAD

Close

1.4192

93.61

1.0682

1.6422

1.1074

High

1.4277

94.39

1.0720

1.6553

1.1114

Low

1.4164

93.29

1.0624

1.6385

1.0966

Simple mva

EUR/USD

USD/JPY

USD/CHF

GBP/USD

USD/CAD

5 day

1.4163

94.03

1.0718

1.6440

1.1125

10 day

1.4057

93.40

1.0786

1.6327

1.1346

20 day

1.4036

94.58

1.0824

1.6360

1.1462

50 day

1.3969

95.57

1.0847

1.6179

1.1351

100 day

1.3587

96.94

1.1153

1.5376

1.1826

200 day

1.3336

95.24

1.1341

1.5176

1.2069

Vienna GD 19:35 GMT July 21, 2009
Dollar is a buy here ... or within next few days.
Dollar goes opposite of where stocks go.

Additionally closely follow da usdcad chart.
That reversal today spoke (spuked) a lot imho.

DYOD - could be wrong of course.
No doubt.
If equities go higher.

makassar alimin 19:33 GMT July 21, 2009
love to be proven wrong here, feeling good as the minority side ;)

Vienna GD 19:33 GMT July 21, 2009
mamun - sorry almost never trade single stocks ... all i know is AAPL usually above market expectation and YHOO below.

Sorry for not being of help (;-(

Other markets not confirming this after lunch counter rally.

kl kl 19:30 GMT July 21, 2009
mamun, Alimin, GD

I think the US Dollar is too dangerous to Sell now...when it rises the market will tank...The whole world money is so out of whack now.....cannot destroy USD so soon....a few more years perhaps

Tech is showing leadership to sell.......

London Mamun 19:23 GMT July 21, 2009
Market FLASH: Sell the U.S. Dollar and buy the Japanese Yen
July 21, 2009 · By Adam · Filed Under Financial News
MarketClub’s Trade Triangle technology just flashed a sell sIgnal on the U.S. Dollar vis a vis the Japanese Yen at 93.56 basis the spot market.

http://club.ino.com/trading/2009/07/market-flash-sell-the-us-dollar-and-buy-the-japanese-yen/

be MEMBER

London Mamun 19:18 GMT July 21, 2009
KL
YOUR BROKER may smell your stop. index not going above last high. be confident and trade accordingly.

GD I want to sell aapl before report tonight. your view please

makassar alimin 19:16 GMT July 21, 2009
well KL, it comes to a point where no more negative news can make the market tanks

kl kl 19:07 GMT July 21, 2009
GD

he he...moving my stops now 8896.... might as well enjoy a few pips...should have covered 1/2 earlier near 8820 but this is how Bears get broken to be seen regretting tomorrow and the weeks ahead.... Yes lots of issues still in this world...but we can IGNORE it and it goes away....Like sub prime problem.

China too have lots of social and unemployment problem even though the index have rocketted...now stalling near 3000 on the verge of falling to earth..

Vienna GD 18:57 GMT July 21, 2009
KL ... and add that flu ... LINK

Flu death toll at 700, school closures an option: WHO

GENEVA (Reuters) - The H1N1 virus has killed more than 700 people worldwide since emerging in April, and countries could consider closing schools to slow its spread, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Tuesday.

The WHO, whose previous death toll was 429 two weeks ago, also said it was up to national health authorities to decide what measures they impose to slow the spread of the new strain.

--------

Now that is an increase of over 63% in two weeks ... let's do the math:

1,143 - july 28
1,859 - august 11
3,031 - august 25
4,951 - sept 8
8,054 - sept 22
13,128 - oct 6
21,399 - oct 20
34,881 - nov 3
56,857 - nov 17
92,677 - dec 1
151,064 - dec 15
246,234 - dec 29
401,362 - jan 11
654,221 - jan 25
1,066,380 - feb 8
1,738,199 - feb 22
2,833,265 - mar 6
4,618,223 - mar 20
7,527,703 - apr 3
12,270,157 - apr 17
hopefully then da winter is over

kl kl 18:48 GMT July 21, 2009
mamun, alimin GD,

There are times when one needs to believe and attack and short ...again they ...PPT trying to drag many things out far so that the coming double bottom not so bottom...

I will always short this kind of rally...more so when it is in a Bear Market....at least the zone is near here to short and long near 8000.....its been an impressive rally but the reality of JOBS...JOBS will make Fundies Hedgies Bullish retail think hard soon....up 800 in 6 days in a bear market is like drop 800 in a Bull market Defy logic...tomorrow drop 200 or more...to 8650....lets see my stops now 8890....not covered one lot yet....

makassar alimin 18:48 GMT July 21, 2009
Mamun, it might be too early for me to say this but I dont think we will see usdjpy under 90. This chance under 95 should be good accumulation zone for above 100 by year end, all IMHO of course

makassar alimin 18:45 GMT July 21, 2009
GD, only thing is expect the unexpected and that applies both to bulls and bears. Sometimes the most illogical thing is also the most logical one when it comes to the market. For the moment I am just expecting DJI to close near 8870 and then tomorrow anything can happen.

Vienna GD 17:42 GMT July 21, 2009
mamun - if this rally continues like it started (think of da bears!) ... there will again only be prisoners.
With no or not many chances to bail.

London Mamun 17:07 GMT July 21, 2009
Alimin
it gone straight up 800 point , should fall aswell

i want to see goog bellow 400, jpm 32, ms 23, ge 10,
we will be there again

Vienna GD 16:53 GMT July 21, 2009
Alimin ... but seems nobody told you that no market flies straight into da sky - but that there are corrections from time to time.

Btw did you notice a correction since this rally started july10th? - i didn't and after a move of over 800 pts in 7 trading days (average over 100 pts a day!) the odds are for a correction - or for a continuation of the rally?

What do you think?

makassar alimin 16:51 GMT July 21, 2009
expecting DJI's close somewhere near 8870

makassar alimin 16:49 GMT July 21, 2009
thanks Mamun, but dont you scare all the bulls, i am on their side at least for now ;) someone told me before that one day's move does not make a trend

London Mamun 16:39 GMT July 21, 2009
GD
just giving little strength to KL, because he close position with little profite

where are you KL, Come on the field to fight the bull if there is any

Vienna GD 16:34 GMT July 21, 2009
London Mamun 16:18 GMT July 21, 2009
YEN is honest: Reply
All stock over valued. should fall 15-20% bellow which is the fair value,

sell all stock of ftse and dax, if you lose let me have your bank details, i will compansate you.

Closed 1/2 of all short positions while SNP at 946
rest will keep for 2011

-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

mamun - once more you make my day!!!
Hey i will double up my positions - that might get quite expensive ... LOL.
2nd ... you keep 1/2 Snp until 2011 - not a good idea - but until Q2 next year might be quite profitable! Another LOL.

London Mamun 16:30 GMT July 21, 2009
DOW 8900 is the high of December 2002 and December 2008

London Mamun 16:26 GMT July 21, 2009
Alimin
buy YEN here for 83
don't sell, its matter of time - yen will fall bellow 90

sell all weak stock for 20% fall

will back later

London Mamun 16:18 GMT July 21, 2009 Reply   
All stock over valued. should fall 15-20% bellow which is the fair value,

sell all stock of ftse and dax, if you lose let me have your bank details, i will compansate you.

Closed 1/2 of all short positions while SNP at 946
rest will keep for 2011

makassar alimin 15:52 GMT July 21, 2009
GD, i prefer playing jpy pairs for this purpose
for that I am going long now on usdjpy 93.39, stop under 92.70

Vienna GD 15:10 GMT July 21, 2009
dates = days

Vienna GD 15:10 GMT July 21, 2009
Turndate tomorrow ... +/- a few dates .. so higher highs still possible. But better read the signs.

Or be a man and go long ... post trade!

Vienna GD 15:08 GMT July 21, 2009
The longer da illusion remains in place ... the better for the MM market makers)

On the other hand for the smart trader there are stops in place.

Time will tell.
And time is running out.
DYOD

makassar alimin 14:59 GMT July 21, 2009
GD, i am afraid the only thing that is confirmed is that DJI keeps going higher despite other things corrected, once they resume their path, DJI will be fueled to go higher. Of course there will be time when enough is enough but so far it is not the case, yet!

Vienna GD 14:45 GMT July 21, 2009
EURCHF another officer on our side ...

Vienna GD 14:43 GMT July 21, 2009
Your officers confirming?

Anyway da yen is confirming!

London Mamun 13:37 GMT July 21, 2009
kl
sold at 8920 will + 8954+8982, and dax,ftse, snp

makassar alimin 11:44 GMT July 21, 2009
they will inflate everything now>>> gold 960, crude 66.40 and dow 9000

makassar alimin 11:39 GMT July 21, 2009
KL, be careful...9090 in the cards

kl kl 11:37 GMT July 21, 2009 Reply   
in 8899...this is it...this is the blow off and that is the high for the day!!....no fear now...keep adding until bankrupt every 25 pips above....warship and armada of Ninja is ready

Vienna GD 10:27 GMT July 21, 2009
except chfjpy ... which bounce right at support.

Vienna GD 10:26 GMT July 21, 2009
all major jpy-crosses already broke thru the last 6-7 trading days trend channel support line.

Again i said: we could still go higher a bit - but imho these are topping signs.
Time will tell - DYOD, maybe we see 9700 in this round ... as some are still hoping for.

makassar alimin 10:23 GMT July 21, 2009
GD, Bernanke's viagra might send dow above 10k

Vienna GD 10:15 GMT July 21, 2009
if = even

Vienna GD 10:14 GMT July 21, 2009
if you throw in each day 5 viagra (all indices north) ... at some point if the weakest dummy gets north (;-)

no ... honestly - imho these are topping signs, though maybe a bit more to go still. Some markets more weak, other less ... depends on the girly ... (;-)

makassar alimin 09:54 GMT July 21, 2009 Reply   
looks like jpy pairs were lying, now they are coming back, stocks are telling the truth!

GVI Forex john 09:41 GMT July 21, 2009

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9:37

 USD

pips

10yr

bp

2yr

bp

Stox

 

pts

USD

 

 

3.61

0

0.97

0

 

 

 

EUR

1.4218

8

3.41

-1

1.27

-1

DAX

5066

35

GBP

1.6418

126

3.83

0

1.23

3

FTSE

4468

24

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CHF

1.0677

2

2.28

-1

0.50

1

SMI

5641

13

JPY

94.17

3

1.37

5

0.28

1

NIK

9652

257

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CAD

1.1064

3

3.42

-8

1.20

-2

TSE

10541

11

AUD

0.8132

29

5.52

-10

4.01

-3

ASX

4051

0

NZD

0.6540

24

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CNY

6.83

1

SSEC

3267

0

 

DJIA

8848

7

Gold

947.75

2.70

HSI

19502

-1

 

S&P

951

0

WTI

63.91

0.42

 

 

 

 

NAS

1909

5

kl kl 07:43 GMT July 21, 2009 Reply   
Yes in FTSE 4461 sl 4472....come on Tired Bulls...I will repeated hammer you near near to 4470 and kee taking the 10-20 pips....no fear. Today I am in Anger mood....since its in blow off or perhaps that was already yesterday.....6 days rally needs to consolidate to rally more or down you go again...tiem will tell when reality sets in!!

Syd 04:04 GMT July 21, 2009 Reply   
http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?N=tvtoday&clipSRC=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo-static.clipsyndicate.com%2Fcs-video%2Fvol2%2F2009%2F7%2F20%2F58%2F351%2F8f66f5ac-4c49-4d3f-bfc1-b2df30ae0c35.flv

Syd 02:18 GMT July 21, 2009 Reply   
China over-plays its hand
It would be ironic if the confrontation between China and Rio Tinto caused by China’s decision to arrest Stern Hu and his colleagues not only led to the breakdown in the benchmark pricing system for iron ore but helped Rio and BHP Billiton gain European Commission approval for their Pilbara joint venture in the process.

The arrest of Hu and three other Rio executives for allegedly acquiring ‘state secrets’ has undoubtedly and fundamentally altered the relationship between the big iron ore producers and the Chinese steel mills.
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/China-over-plays-its-hand-pd20090720-U56EE?OpenDocument&censored=kgb

 


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