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Forex Forum Archive for 12/22/2004

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London. 23:56 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Hi Rudolf, to be quite honest , I retrieve what I require out of most articles without getting into them too deep
check them out quite interesting analysis


http://www.investica.co.uk/marketreport.htm

wellington 23:46 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
According to Goldman Sachs JBWere the larger-than-expected NZ November trade gap shows fast deteriorating external accounts, reinforces widening trend for current account gap analysts expect annual current account gap in 4Q to widen to 6.4% of GDP vs earlier 6.2%, with 7% of GDP in 2005 high probability , could be a negative for the Kiwi if markets begin to turn their attention to current account deficits similar to the US

SanFrancisco Rudolf The One Eyed Rain Deer 23:44 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
London - I am in no way questioning you for that post regarding exporter tolerance, and really do appreciate your posts. But in this case perhaps I may raise the question to the original "journalist" ....

Q ... If Indeed Exporters Are Under Stress Does That Mean They Will Soon Act Unanimously In a Tide of Bets Against Real Price Valuation In An Attempt to Dictate Worldwide Currency Flow and Valuation?

Unless this journalist can answer "yes", he/she is filling space with no clue.

Ask yourself, if you were an exporter would you suddenly throw all money against the tide beleiving all other exporters intend to do the same simultaneously and thus re-directing global pricing to your advantage?

If I were an exporter, I would be very carefully making sure I am not idiotically trying to dictate global pricing, but matching it.

worcester js 23:38 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
can anyone here reccomend a signal provider with entry and exit points?

Syd 23:26 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Weekly GBP CFTC
Despite the retreat in GBP/USD to 1.9017 last Friday, the drop only attracted buying on dips with net longs rising further to 38,786 in what appears to be historic net long positions. This was reflected in the surge to 1.9550 on Thursday but the pullback to 1.9260 may see longs pared next week.


Syd 23:17 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
GBP could be in for more downside. The size of speculative long GBP positions suggests that further position squaring lies ahead and so the currency is likely to see further weakness ahead with a break of 1.9000 opening the possibility of a slump to 1.8500. BoE minutes from December 8-9 meeting dovish on official interest rates

NAB report

London. 23:10 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Is the Euro overvalued?

Evidence from the latest trade figures is inconclusive, especially as the figures do not cover the most recent Euro gains. For the third quarter of 2004, for example, there was an annual increase in exports of 8.7%. The most recent figures for exports to the US also recorded an annual increase of close to 9.0%. Since then, the Euro has strengthened to near EUR1.34/US$ from 1.22 and this will result in greater stresses for the export sector. The latest imports figures also registered a decline in imports from the US which does not suggest that the Euro is overvalued.
In terms of the old dollar/Deutschemark, the current level is around 1.47 which is strong in historic terms, but not massively out of line. A sharp decline in Sterling would increase concerns within the Euro-zone. Conversely, Asian currency appreciation would ease exporter concerns substantially. The overall ECB monetary stance is still accommodative and the deflation fears are low at this stage. Overall, the serious pain threshold for exporters is likely to be above EUR1.40/US$,

Investica Ltd

SanFrancisco Rudolf The One Eyed Rain Deer 22:38 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Since 12/19 there have been 4 true flows which would threaten a Euro break back to the upside above 3420 +. None have met with any market sentiment. The USD has been sold with no follow throug for days. If my red nose tells me the truth we are having trouble flying downhill. Better be a good downdraft, otherwise I am kicking for USD upside. :) Merry Christmas.

London. 22:21 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Dollar-Bloc currencies suffer as carry trade appeal wanes

Vienna GD 22:04 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Geneva FHR ... found this post ... 1.20 eur! Great ... we saw ~1.18!

Geneva FHR 18:59 GMT May 5, 2003
Houston That is wishful thinking i have heard already this kind of agument many times.I am in this market since 1978.I have seen the doll shoot up from 1.47 to 2.93 and then back to 1.11 and then to 1.82 so nothing will surprise me anymore.
If you look at a lon term chart the most obvious target for
the the euro is 1.20 and 1.15 for $/CHF. It may take some time but we will go there.

-----
FHR which fx markets do you trade us or european or both?
And do you visit this forum on a daily basis? Time?
Do you also trade oil or metals (gold, silver)?
Are you a fulltime trader?
Think i would like to ask you for your opinion sometimes ... in the future ... if you don't matter of course.

GOES B747 22:00 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Vienna GD 21:33 GMT // everything is possible .. Land Rover Discovery MK3 (the newest) cost in USA 35% lower then in the cheapest place in Europe ... and I can go further and provide you same and higher differences ... it cannot go further like that ... losses bring people out of work and the social system in Europe cannot afford that for more than 3months ... but, it looks that markets do not care about people ... it is not about trend; people in Asia stood in lines to give the goverment their gold to put the economy on track not so long ago, the western culture will make people to shoot on each other ... imo !!!

g/l g/t

Syd 21:58 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
NZ Nov Trade Deficit NZ$679m, Far Worse Than Expected

Vienna GD 21:33 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
GOES B747 ... i agree 100% with geneva fhr: you will go broke if you will stay/add short eurusd for the foreseeable future.
A lot of traders are expecting eurusd 1.45-1.50 sooner or later.

NEVER NEVER NEVER go against the main trend.
DRAW the trendlines ... 8hour or daily charts.

Think about this: although george tried to support his italian friend AND this is time for taking profits ... did you notice the low of the eur? 1.31xx and where is eurusd NOW?

AND the post election years ... the bad years are yet to come!
And did you notice georges "deficit cut in 2006" (NOT 2005!!!).
Or golds strength.
WHERE are the big pullbacks??????
Imho: NO pullback ... simply year end action!

Wishes are traders enemy NR 1!!!
And I know several guys here who would love to see eur below parity because the us is that great and the eu that weak. Somehow they remember me of george: iraq HAS wmds! Of course! Wishes.

DRAW THE TRENDLINES!
AND NEVER NEVER .... gl, gt

PS: no wishes ... profitable ... flat ... 1.40 within a couple of weeks ... 1.45 within 2005 ... the low therafter? A wild guess 1.33 ... but in fact no idea - nobody (except maybe george) knows!

Dallas GEP 21:09 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
I have a SHORT eur/gbp order in place waiting @ .7005 with .7017 stop Target 6940

GOES B747 21:01 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
GENEVA FHR 19:52 GMT /// I cannot afford to underestimate your expirience, you get full respect for the years you done within the trading markets.

but, I will allow my self to ask you to take a call; what will print first with EUR/USD ... 1.2950 or 1.4300 ???


gt

Syd 20:42 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Nationalism key weapon in fight to defend WMC

The Australian Government and not WMC Resources shareholders may thwart Xstrata's hostile takeover bid. There is a growing nationalistic fervour against the Swiss raider in Australia, and Federal Treasurer Peter Costello is under pressure to deny Xstrata ownership of WMC's Olympic Dam, the biggest uranium resource in the world. In 2001, Costello rejected Royal Dutch Shell's attempt to control Woodside Petroleum, on the grounds of preserving ownership of the Woodside-operated, lucrative North West Shelf gasfields in Australian hands. Xstrata also won few friends with its scrapping of the Windamurra vanadium project in Western Australia
The Australian Financial Review

Ltn th 20:11 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Or is there anyone offering to sell 300 contracts of GBP?

Ltn th 20:01 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
NAB cant seem to get its FX right these days.
Details and reaction.

GENEVA FHR 19:52 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Goes my dear friend selling a rising currency or buying a falling currency with averaging every 3 or 4oo pips leads to disaster and poverty.How do you know the top and how do you know that an extreme will not be seen.I have seen in 25 years crazy situation which nobody predict such as silver crisis from 4$oz to 45$ oz etc. I only sell something who goes or buy something who goes up.

Syd 19:40 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Commodity continue to slide helping aud kiwi cad get wacked

Syd 19:28 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Van Gecko appreciate any views you have on CAD from here .

Ltn th 19:23 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
SNP. Different kettles of marmalade, eggs and fishies.
GBP is a l/t UK structural thing but may (hopefully not) be a precursor to USD following. Particularly if the down trend is aborted. CAD could promise a nice rebound which may lead euro and others.

GOES B747 19:22 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
GENEVA FHR 16:52 GMT // working with so long term charts may cause a miscalculation of few months that equals to 1'500 pips in some cases ... the fact the EUR did not exist that time makes the whole forecasting business at the moment crazy amd almost impossible.

it is not BUBA this time, it goes about all CB's and they know markets better they knew 20 years ago; I say it is better to start accumalating EUR/USD shorts now than going long.

if market keeps going up, it is still possible to short every 350-400 pips for 150-200 pips ride to ensure best posiyion average for the so called 'trend change' ...

imho, g/l & g/t

SanFrancisco Rudolf The One Eyed Rain Deer 19:21 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Also, one should consider there has been solid profit taking off USD gains so there is a point (relative levels) where the idea of profit taking runs into the pressure of actual continuation.

lax-lgb SNP 19:14 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
if cad and gbp lead the way how long before eur and chf follow ;-)

Mtl JP 19:09 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
re dlrcad (from my GVI posts earlier today - still valid, daily close above 1.2560 would nix)

Mtl JP 17:39 GMT December 22, 2004
In the overall scheme of dlrcad's things (and partialy re <- slv sam 17:21 ..longer term we shall see 1.27 level...) the down trend would reverse on a daily close above the down t-line drawn from mid-may and mid-june points coming in at 1.2555 on my chart. Above that is the 38% fib at 1.2589 as R. Until then, selling pops is my prefered side.

Mtl JP 17:02 GMT December 22, 2004
dlrcad still in an overall downtred: favour selling against pops like 1.2475/80 next if seen.

What I like about this scenario is that selling against 1.2480 (held so far) and 1.2560 is a good rr if one targets the support drawn thru 25/11 and 01/12 coming in at 1.2070/50ish

SanFrancisco TG 19:08 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Ask any legitimate professional trader and they will tell you there is no "agreed range sheet" passed around each day that prescribes daily ranges. I am having 100% difficulty accepting pre-determined buy/sell levels based on past behavior. I have a saying .. every level is made to be broken. In all humility, I think "on the go" assessment holds more value that factors in the probabilities of pre-set levels.

Miami OMIL (/;-> 18:51 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Van jv 18:41 GMT December 22, 2004
Can you give me more details on why I should consider the bullish channels? Right now the bottom T/L is holding as the intraday indicators unwind on this thin market.

Halifax CB 18:47 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
slv sam - Re USDCAD that was a good call, well done. I've just closed a long USDCAD position from a couple of days ago, because after a rise like this USDCAD, once it starts to back down often goes a little too far. But I agree re your eventual target of at least 1.27. Right now 1.25 though is the big block; it wouldn't surprise me if someone has a big interest in not breaking that.

Van jv 18:41 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Miami OMIL (/;-> 16:08////
You may consider questioning your " up-channels", in particular on AUD

nyc grumpy 18:31 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
yyyaaaaaawwwwwnnnnnnn!

slv sam 17:21 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
slv sam 14:19 GMT December 13, 2004
minimum target for cad is 1.2440/80.GT

longer term we shall see 1.27 level.GT

gold coast martin 17:19 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
saloniko 2004 nk...1.4088 17:17 GMT December 22, 2004

very true nk.....140..112 ..its only money..it matters little if you are not happy....have a good one....

saloniko 2004 nk...1.4088 17:17 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Whatever huppen...1.40 or 1.12

Martin

Kales yiortes kai eytyxismenes !

nk

saloniko 2004 nk...1.4088 17:04 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Martinako..

read this:

GENEVA FHR 16:28 GMT December 22, 2004

No comment..

Pano apo to 1.40 eimai mazi soy..

nk

B.A. BOCA 17:04 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
gbp/jpy diving fast..

mysore forexveda 17:03 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
perrie como, I agree. I am a day trader too and go for 30 to 50 pips profist and soemtimes 100 pips profits in majors. But i always look at the mid term trend and go according to that. I have been asking most of my clients of my website to buy at 1.3360 and take profits at 1.3400 and buy back. Some must have repeated this trade atleast 5 times in last 3 days. In my openion, even day traders should have a medium term targets and trade in that direction instea dof trading in both the directions and get stuck with positions.

gold coast martin 17:01 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
saloniko 2004 nk...1.4088 16:56 GMT December 22, 2004

Episis nikolaki.....kali xronia...o agios vasilis tha mas feri 112euro yia to neo xrono.....kales yiortes....

GENEVA FHR 16:57 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
About the report of customer to IRS if you are not a US Citizen or holder of Green Card and not paying taxes in the US the banks don't have to reveal you indentities anyway.so i dont think this is the reason anyway.

saloniko 2004 nk...1.4088 16:56 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Kala Xristougena...

Kali Xronia....

Martinako;)

nk

GENEVA FHR 16:52 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
I dont know if the fall of the dollar had something to do with the IRS but for me technical indicator showed me the trend.
In fact i missed the first part from 85to1.00 and took the train when 1.00 was broken.

Ldn 16:47 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
USD/CAD has climbed higher reflect drop in oil,Aus also lower commodities pullback

Philadelphia Caba 16:47 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Dallas GEP 15:40 GMT December 22, 2004

short eurgbp closed at b/e too. thanks.

GOES B747 16:46 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
FHR // "...the United States Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is forcing unco-operative foreign banks to report the identity of every investor in US securities to the IRS from January 2001, or face a 31 per cent tax on interest, dividends, and the gross proceeds of security sales."


is the above was your reason to go hard against USD; or you see that as trigger to follow the multi-year charts (i.e. 10YR)?

gt

perrie como 16:35 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Saw around also many advicing to long the usd/jpy but think the yen to strenghten more next days/weeks
even sub 100 or just slighltly above for now

Ldn 16:32 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
The U.S. economy moved a little faster during the summer than earlier estimated, but corporate profits fell because of four hurricanes Gross domestic product increased during July through September at a 4.0% annual rate, revised up from a prior reported 3.9% and faster than the second quarter's 3.3% growth,Exports increased 6.0% in the third quarter and imports advanced by 4.6%. Commerce previously reported exports rose 6.3% and imports went up 6.0%.CNBC

perrie como 16:32 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
tks geneve I was also around previous monthlies 1.26, but was quite a risk...also last week Swiss Nat bank stepped in and many smaller followed up, but guess something else is cooking that supports the euro... for now am looking shortly and sticking to that mysore below 1.37 even 1.41 and then rebalance...have many doubts on how the market might react if CPB chinese pop bank is going to lift the yuan, think more dollars to be sold to regulate assets, but might be messy

we will see
g/l on your lt ride

GENEVA FHR 16:28 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Don't care about intervention usually they dont work.
I saw in 84/85 buba trying stop $ rise to no awail. May move the market 500 pips but wont change the trend.We have seen
low of Euro at around 80-84.$/CHF 1.80.-1.82 .Long term charts show no sign yet of reversing trend.trend is your friends.

gold coast martin 16:26 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   


Spotforex NY 16:24 GMT December 22, 2004
I think George Hamilton might be a bit young for the Jay role..i was thinking more of Yoda from starwars fame......

perrie como 16:25 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
May the farmer stay solvent too...and happy one to you too

The Farmer's Plight

A farmer goes to a livestock dealer and buys an anvil, a
bucket, two chickens, and a goose. The farmer looks at
his purchases and says, "Darn, I WALKED here. How am I
gonna carry all this home?

The livestock dealer said, "Why don't you put the anvil in
the bucket, carry the bucket in one hand, put a chicken
under each arm and carry the goose in your other hand?"
"Hey, thanks!" the farmer said, and off he goes.

While walking home he meets a little old lady who tells him
she is lost. She asks, "Can you tell me how to get to 1515
Mockingbird Lane?"

The farmer says, "Well, as a matter of fact, I live just down
the road from there. Let's take my short cut and go down
this alley. We'll be there in no time."

The little old lady says, "I am a lonely widow without a
husband to defend me. How do I know that when we get in
the alley you won't hold me up against the wall, pull up my
skirt, and ravish me?"

The farmer says, "Holy smokes lady! I'm carrying a bucket,
an anvil, two chickens, and a goose. How in the world could I
possibly hold you up against the wall and do that?"

She replies, "Set the goose down, cover him with the bucket,
put the anvil on top of the bucket, and I'll hold the chickens."

Miami OMIL (/;-> 16:24 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Thanks Martin it is frustrating for the techs when we must define a flat line and resistance is well engraved for now. I have taken the proper steps to secure the profits and will ride this slow train to wherever it takes me.
Good one SPOT are these forces willing to stay for the whole tour because I don’t see the attacks letting up anytime soon in the future LOL. Happy holiday guys

Spotforex NY 16:24 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
George Hamilton beat out george Clooney for the Jay roll on the FF reality series......

Bob Denver wants to play spot......

B.A. BOCA 16:23 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
the market can stay irrational far longer than you can stay solvent...



Gl...Merry Christmas . eat and drink..behappy



gold coast martin 16:22 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
LOL....spot....a real life tv series on traders of gv will be a winner....problem is who gets to play Jay?.....lol...

perrie como 16:21 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
FHR geneva lucky you...hold It up...

guess you were lurking here becouse of interventions and possible retracement was showing up

did you had any lavel to stop?

GOES B747 16:20 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
GENEVA FHR 16:17 GMT // good, I guess you entered against the USD as soon Bush played tax regulations against money (leave out the "tax cuts").

I respect your play for the 10YR chart; but I really look forward to drop below 1.300 before possible move towards the 1.43-1.47 area ... this price needs more 14-18 months to touch, if at all.

gt

New York JT 16:19 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
It's amazing the insularity that breeds in this forum. It's been hamstringing the place for years.

Spotforex NY 16:19 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
GVI Peace keeping force sent in......

Spotforex NY 16:18 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Today headlines

"Sporadic attacks, hostile inhabitants, suicide bombers"

Is this Iraq??????


Nope - just the typical day inside the GV Forex forum.

GENEVA FHR 16:17 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
My friends i am not trading for 14 day no interest.For you r info i am long euro from Dec 2002 at around 1.00.I trade long term multi-years. Been long dollars from 96 till 2001 then reversed. As long as the trend of the doll is down will keep my position. Will look for 1.45/46.Good trade to you

perrie como 16:16 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
If anyone guess on the latter short term, suggesting to ask GV. They have plenty of resources and books and whatsoever.

Happy chaos 2005

gold coast martin 16:14 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Miami OMIL (/;-> 16:08 GMT December 22, 2004
I fully understand your technical possie on the aud...however in the current scheme of things ,fundamentals override technicals in the aussie....it has been capped sub 77 in the short term.....fwiw...g/t

perrie como 16:14 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
no one s bushing noone

but maybe stockastics are making quite an ego on 5 and 1 minutes charts

nothing against It just rember the world is made of differences and so It is not the best thing to spot a poster and to follow him without knowing watch'u do

the market and year end, except if anything big happens (which might but has not just becouse of some news or percentages of changes on any of markets) is mostly trading water..

nothing to print just set short term oscillators + bollingers and follow em

GOES B747 16:11 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
GENEVA FHR 16:08 GMT // can be true if I close the position; hope I said enough ..

what is you forecasted range (or your position t/p s/l) for EUR/USD for the next 14 days? ... thanks in advance.

gt

Philadelphia Caba 16:08 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Dallas GEP 15:40 GMT December 22, 2004
CABA, I closed eur/gbp at BE because although I STILL think it will short, there is no way I want to attend to this during US session. FLAT now all possies

Thanks GEP, I'm still in, time tell.

GENEVA FHR 16:08 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Goes Great you get 11 pips for 3 months. That you can lose in
5 seconds.

Miami OMIL (/;-> 16:08 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Hello everyone I see the usual GEP bashing is in order for today. I thought maybe because of the holidays the FF participants would be either to drunk or to warm hearted to bash anybody. I guess I was wrong. Aud/usd long keeps my position open and I just can’t get myself to close it yet. I have a bullish channel on this pair defined by top (7720-30), pivot (7675) and bottom (7620-30) for now. Eur/usd has another bullish channel defined by top (3455-65), pivot (3395) and bottom (3325-35) for now. As long as these bottom channels are not broken the bulls are in control IMHO. GL GT

perrie como 16:07 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
if eur/usd goes back up (but guess will play for some more hours) I'll start to load...say around here 1.338++

if lower hopefully will add more

g/l

GOES B747 16:05 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Dallas GEP 15:55 GMT // I hope you will go all the way to 1.2950 (at least) with this trade ... USD pays interest these days when doing FX trading ...

gt

gold coast martin 16:05 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
New York JT 15:57 GMT December 22, 2004
Just been polite......go and have a good christmas instead of wasting your time playing shadow.....the soup kitchen near wall street serves good hot meals this time of year....

OK SZ 16:03 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
well just stopping in to say Happy Holidays to all. It's a shame that some posters have nothing better to do than throw trash around. To all others enjoy your trades and holiday season.

perrie como 16:03 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Mysore...I do perfectly agree with yours, however know that most here are 20 pips trader, rarely you ll see here multidays positions ...It's more sort of climax to me as I come to look, as do think many brokers are (for this am not a broker), where the stops and liquidity is. Nothing else I guess

Corect me if am wrong, but some honesty at the end is better than odds.

New York JT 15:58 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Assume that's an entry order as market is trading below that level.... am I missing something?

mysore forexveda 15:58 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Expecting pound to rebound tomorrow and euro to touch 1.37** by year end.

New York JT 15:58 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Time stamp that trade GEP....

New York JT 15:57 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Gold Coast... "with due respect" and "f/off" in the same post? Little schizophrenic wouldn't you say, mate?



Dallas GEP 15:55 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
SHorted euro 1.3395 will see if this holds or not (resistance at 1.3400)

gold coast martin 15:54 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
New York JT 15:50 GMT December 22, 2004
..Wit due respect,getting very tired of listening to your b.s...post something constructive that is relevant to the market flows....otherwise....f/off....

Indonesia - Solo Raden Mas 15:54 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
about gbp please wait and see because have get number low 9096(bid). please see my level at fxtradercenter. still have no message chart from there(9096).

Jkt Rick 15:53 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
closes gbp shorts at market 1.9146 with 20 pips loss

Spotforex NY 15:53 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
JT, market is a tad erratic for me at this point, but the dollar should have done better in this NY morning.....

chop chop as they say.....

Indonesia - Solo Raden Mas 15:51 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
hello...
please exit your buy eur/gbp when touch 0.7010 or 7031 !!!
I feel eur/usd will go to "Santa Clause "railway to go minimum 3255 or 3195.ideally from 3415 high. Please focuse on 1.2995.
not good if plan to higher than 3473. :-)
be carefull !!!!

New York JT 15:50 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Helia, Dallas is probably wired into Citi's HK desk.

Dallas GEP 15:48 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Thanks SPOT!!!

jkt-aye 15:48 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
JT... would you share your view on EUR as I tempted to short it? TIA

perrie como 15:46 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Also Very Important to notice relative to commodities
and Oil in particuralrly is that
Big Buyers are buying to receive Oil not to resell futures contracts again

This makes quite a difference, don't you think

g/l anyway

Spotforex NY 15:46 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
GEP...FWIW

some HK names trying to lift Cable here.....knife catchers IMHO.

perrie como 15:44 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Would remind you there are some long around 40 and will stay and add if goes lower...33/34/35/36 and 38 to 44 are long term buying zones

New York JT 15:44 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Potential long developing in GBP... Dallas was GBP UP heads or tails on whatever coin it is you flip when you come up with this stuff?

Spotforex NY 15:43 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
front month crude at $44.00
down $1.74

Dollar has NO responce with firmer dow, higher rates and lower oil

Jubb City next stop!!!!!

GENEVA FHR 15:41 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Crude Oil 44.00 - 1.75

Spotforex NY 15:40 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Dow Jones above 10,800 for the first time since June 2001...

Now GWB has to get that employment numbers back to those levels!!!!!

Dallas GEP 15:40 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
CABA, I closed eur/gbp at BE because although I STILL think it will short, there is no way I want to attend to this during US session. FLAT now all possies

perrie como 15:39 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
60 cents...cmon

however I noticed that most I was saying here was not suitable for margin traders, and for this I do apologise.

since during some hourse It seems is fast in and out and this is not very linkable to macro economics, resources etc. I do think

Spotforex NY 15:33 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
oil inventories increased and crude is down 60 cents after its release.....see if the dollar joins in.....Dollar cad has!!!!

Dallas GEP 15:32 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Tell you what JT, Boca Raton or whatever, I REFUSE to take up any more precious space responding to your senseless posts, so I won't.

GBP watchers be very careful of a potential LONG developing.

perrie como 15:29 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Cmon

just don't forget

that Early Birdie do not that far

and GBO
god bless oil

Spotforex NY 15:29 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
also from GVI...

Spotforex NY 14:06 GMT December 3, 2004
chopped up just a bit on that payroll release.

dollar seems to be entering a 'chop' mode from trend mode...sub 1.3300 would tell me the upside is done......


dollar swiss breeched my 1.1430 level, but closed above it on an hourly basis....still leaning towards a dollar retracement mode....

perrie como 15:27 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Today I do agree with Tallin on eur/usd

yesterday was early

g/l and good appetite

Spotforex NY 15:26 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
I have posted on GVI my recent views on oil and the dollar....Back in Nov oil started to top out......the dollar has 'consolidated' after its first week in Dec.....

Spotforex NY 15:40 GMT November 15, 2004
The fall in oil prices may be the spark to ignite any dollar retracement...My favorite research notes that this is their play for the moment.....

perrie como 15:17 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Oil below 47 to keep dollar strong...hm? seems too easy..however I do see prices are moving that way but guess oil is only an coincidence

g/l....long term oil is seen at 80 next year....maybe earlier if other 11mio barrels in danger

GOES B747 15:16 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
with EUR action today, I have the feeling that this ccy. can dance samba on cliff's edge and when bored from samba it will move to dancing breakdance (still on cliff's edge) ... but, finito la comedia is getting closer.

gt all

Dallas GEP 15:14 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Thanks DON, good post.

Spotforex NY 15:13 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
spot is still in the mode that the dollar is in a consolidation/retracement phase for now. Oil below $47 should keep the recent dollar lows intact....but I am flat and finish for the year.

Dallas GEP 15:11 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Regarding Euro and GBP> MY expectations are that because the GBP has moved so much already, the EURO should play a little catchup on the shorts. Kind of think that Euro could print 1.3310 area but at least for now GBP may have some problems again breaking 1.9100. So FWIW I could be wrong as well because GBP alwys seems to react differently than what is generally expected. Pound could be a decent LONG from 1.9120 area.

Spotforex NY 15:11 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Morning all.

For those who think in dollar terms, these are the days that frustrate traders. Trying to trade the euro based on cable's action will only add to frustration.

The Market is in a 'taketh away' mode.
Nation Jubb Day preceeds Christmas and likely New Years.

gold coast martin 15:11 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
...geez...i did not know Boca Raton was a place in New York..must study more geography!!!!!!...

NY NY 15:08 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Thanks!

Your in compliance now!

Jkt Rick 15:06 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
typing error, at market 1.9128.

Jkt Rick 15:05 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
the most bearish ccy is her majesty,
selling at market 1.928 for 1.8880.

Dallas GEP 15:04 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Good point NY.. Jay could you please ask this poster to use his REAL identity and not hide like the coward he is behind this non-descript handle??????????????

Thanks!!!!

New York Jaundiced Trader 15:04 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Manhattan.

SYD A 15:04 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
USD-JPY view? I'm thikning of buying if we see another probe below 104.00 but will be vervous until there is a sustained hold above 104.50 with further gain above 104.70 needed to open up 105.00/15. Would be nervous below 103.75 but would need break of 103.50 to seriously weaken things... Hhmmm - might sit this out a little longer...
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NY NY 15:01 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Jaundiced Trader

what is your location????? GV states that one should have a recognizable location......

Jaundiced Trader 15:01 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Dallas, I'd be careful mate - you've gotten the attention of the B.S. Police.

SanFrancisco TG 15:00 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Euros have been picked up but under a lesser percentage of performance, leaving a break to further upside past the recent relative barrier in question. Could well break upward but often these conditions point to failures, meaning in hours to come the Euro would drop some. I was posting in concert with Viies camp hours before the GDP but also voiced we might see reduced performance for Euro on the GDP release. No problem, means there is a little more time for conviction to clear.

Dallas GEP 14:59 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Last post to Trader (another non-descript hit and run annonymous poster)!! LOL

Jaundiced Trader 14:59 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
All I can say is thank G*d for Boca Raton's post.

Jaundiced Trader 14:57 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
From yesterday:

Boca Raton 17:01 GMT December 21, 2004
Dallas GEP 13:42 GMT December 21, 2004
Well my usd/jpy long caught my trailing stop earlier @ 104.25 for +29.

Pal, I have been watching this here. When you got in, it was the absolute low given at the time. (hmmmm). And you said you had a 15 point stop loss on it. That would make the stop at 103.80. The low was 68 given, how can you then get CAUGHT on a trailing stop at 104.25? Could it be that you just got CAUGHT doing your usual antics? Somehow, the NEWBIES as you like to call them, still think you are a trading guru. The more seasoned chaps here see right through it. Trading Commandment #4, Though shall not fabricate. Learn it, love it, live it.

Dallas GEP 14:57 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Another CLUELESS post!!! Very helpful. Guess you didn't see where I got stopped on a eur/gbp short and posted that up. AMAZING!!!!

GOES B747 14:56 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
HK Kevin 14:50 GMT // maybe within 30mins they will stop with that :)

gt

HK Kevin 14:56 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
beirut jb 14:45 GMT, hope it's the pain before the huge profit. I enter short at 1.3385.

Jaundiced Trader 14:50 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Dallas GEP we missed you late yesterday afternoon and also your miraculous stops that never seem to be hit even though the market trades well through them.

HK Kevin 14:50 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
It seem market makers are manipulating EUR/GBP and EUR/JPY to hold up EUR

beirut jb 14:45 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
HK Kevin 14:19 GMT

hi mate,

yes here too same stupidity, just watching gbp droping ~ 400 pip and keeping euro short doing nothing , in premises that it should catch cable!!

PAR 14:31 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Long GBP at 1.9140.

Dallas GEP 14:29 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
I wouild imagine that guys that just buy and sell euro are pretty frustrated by it's lack of movement especially compared to GBP.

gold coast martin 14:23 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
gold coast martin 08:47 GMT October 15, 2004
Major Jap fund that go out of crude earlier in the week has re-positioned into a long copper option.....the logic was that as crude rose to record highs and dropped and went up again..copper rose to record highs,dropped to 14 year lows and will rise again........simple logic but a dangerous one...love to see their hedging book...g/t

Reason why i bought this up is that some funds have already positioned themselves for the new year.....might be a good time now to go short on copper and exit when these funds exit...end of feb. 2005

HK Kevin 14:19 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
It's a market of picking pair rathe than simply looking for USD bullish or bearish. Seem I have pick the wrong pair of short EUR instead of Cable.

NJ RT 14:17 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Dallas GEP 13:53 : You were right ... 3393

Dallas GEP 14:15 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Yes Caba, it is 7010.

Philadelphia Caba 14:10 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Dallas GEP 13:53 GMT December 22, 2004

GEP, may I ask you on your stop on sell eurgbp order? Thanks.

Dallas GEP 14:09 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
took eur/gbp short from .6990

gold coast martin 14:02 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
gold coast martin 12:53 GMT December 22, 2004

7732=7632.....g/t

sg tpe 13:59 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Thank you Mr Qindex

sgd tpe 13:58 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
thank you sir.

dc fxq 13:56 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
pa 13:46 GMT


Nice troll turkey!

Hong Kong Qindex 13:54 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Sg Tpe 13:48 GMT - Bothe EUR/GBP and EUR/CHF can easily reverse its course at any time.

Hong Kong Qindex 13:53 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Sg Tpe 13:48 GMT - No change in my view. I guess we just let GBP/USD to lead the show.

Dallas GEP 13:53 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
I have an order waiting for eur/gbp short @ 6992. GBP was big mover last night, think euro will short today from possibly 1.3393 area to 1.3310 or so. Euro is stuggling some now as a matter of fact.

Sg Tpe 13:48 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Dear Mr Qindex,

With a stronger eur/gbp & eurchf, are you still tgt a lower euro.
thanks

pa 13:46 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
what is payroll trading
http://www.geocities.com/jhgreenfield/payrolltradingsystem.html

Tallinn viies 13:44 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Plovdiv Gotin 13:35 GMT - this is past my friend.

look at the stock indexes and you see what markets expect from the future. heard from the new indexes at 3 year highs. havnt checked but if true then seems overbought to me

Hong Kong Qindex 13:42 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
GBP/USD : We should ask for more, the next targeting level is 1.8853 - 1.8933.


Hong Kong Qindex 13:58 GMT December 20, 2004
GBP/USD : The key quantized levels of 3-day, 5-day, 10-day, 22-day and 44-day cycle (16/12 and 17/12) are located at the following :-


... // 1.8933 - 1.9138 - 1.9244 - 1.9287 - 1.9436 - 1.9441 - 1.9478 - 1.9490 - 1.9648 - 1.9660 - 1.9808 // ...


Hong Kong Qindex 09:57 GMT December 20, 2004
GBP/USD : Negative if the market is trading below 1.9466.


... // {1.9466} - 1.9505 - 1.9543 // ...


Hong Kong Qindex 09:49 GMT December 20, 2004
GBP/USD : The key quantized levels of my weekly, monthly and 3-month projection are located at the following :-


... // 1.7427 - 1.7799 - 1.8132 - 1.8853 - 1.9144 - 1.9466 // ...


B.A. BOCA 13:37 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--The U.S. economy climbed a little higher during the summer than earlier believed as purchases of foreign goods and services were lowered, the government said in a report also showing weaker corporate profits in the third quarter.
Gross domestic product increased during July through September at a 4.0% annual rate, revised up from an earlier estimated 3.9%, the Commerce Department said Wednesday. GDP advanced 3.3% in the second quarter.
"The upward revision to GDP growth reflected a downward revision to imports that was partly offset by a downward revision to state and local government spending," Commerce said. Imports are subtracted in the calculation of GDP.

After-tax corporate profits were revised to show a 4.2% decrease to $864.7 billion in the third quarter. Profits were earlier seen as dropping 2.0%. Profits dropped 0.7% in the second quarter. Year over year, third-quarter profits were up 5.7% from the same period 12 months earlier.

Inflation gauges were revised slightly higher. The price index for gross domestic purchases, rose at a 1.9% rate, raised from an earlier estimated 1.8%. The index advanced 3.5% in the second quarter. The government's price index for
personal consumption went up at a 1.3% rate; the previous estimate was an increase of 1.1%. The PCE index climbed 3.1% in the second quarter. The chain-weighted price index rose at a 1.4% rate, up from a previously estimated
1.3%. That gauge climbed 3.2% in the second quarter.

PAR 13:36 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Nobody seems to believe those fantastic US growth figures anymore ?

Plovdiv Gotin 13:35 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Corp profits -4.2. Useless?

dc fxq 13:35 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   

Tallinn viies 13:32 GMT

I thought it was a non-event? Why worry about it then?

Tallinn viies 13:32 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
isnt it third time they revised it? useless, no?

Lahore fm 13:21 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Thanks-a-zillion,gentlemen.

River Falls_USA_ PB 13:19 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Lahore fm 13:13 GMT December 22, 2004 ///3rd quarter GDP 13:30

NJ RT 13:16 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Lahore fm : http://www.dailyfx.com/calendar/FXCalendar.html

Lahore fm 13:13 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
what US data releases are due this morning?anyone,TIA.

PAR 13:10 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Copper, aluminum, zinc all at new multi year highs due to dollar weakness and US fund interest.

LA 13:06 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Associated Press

Stocks to Move Higher Ahead of Holiday

Wednesday December 22, 6:45 am ET

Stocks Are Set to Move Higher As Markets Ready for Last Day of Earnings Reports Before Holiday


NEW YORK (AP) -- U.S stock futures were headed higher early Wednesday as the markets prepare for a last day of earnings reports before the Christmas holiday. Some big names on the docket Wednesday include financial services company A.G. Edwards and chip maker Micron Technology.



Dow Jones futures rose 8 points recently, while Nasdaq futures were up 3 points and S&P futures increased 1.40 points.

In London, the FTSE 100 rose 0.7 percent to 4767. The Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee meeting minutes showed a unanimous vote for no change in interest rates, "which is no surprise," said an ING Financial Markets analyst. "However, what does grab our attention is that there was discussion of the merits of rate cuts - but not rate hikes, suggesting that an easing bias is emerging."

In Japan, the benchmark Nikkei ended up 0.8 percent at 11209.44. It was the fourth day of gains as a solid rise in U.S. stocks overnight prompted more bargain-hunting in both technology blue chips and domestic economy-linked shares like banks.

A European Union court ruled that Microsoft Corp. will have to abide immediately by an EU ruling that forces the software giant to change its commercial practices. The ruling of the Luxembourg-based European Court of First Instance has huge implications for the company, since it forces Microsoft to divulge some trade secrets and produce a version of Windows without its digital Media Player before the appeals procedure runs its full course. EU regulators and the software company were involved in settlement talks in their five-year antitrust battle before the EU fined Microsoft a record EUR497 million ($660.5 million) in March.

Fannie Mae's board, under growing pressure from regulators who found the company had violated accounting rules, last night replaced CEO Franklin D. Raines and Chief Financial Officer Timothy Howard. The board also dismissed KPMG LLP as the company's outside auditor as part of an effort to re-establish credibility with regulators, Congress and investors.

Research in Motion shares declined after the bell even as the company reported strong third-quarter results and raised its fourth-quarter earnings expectations. The company said it expects fourth-quarter adjusted earnings per share of between 60 cents to 67 cents on revenue of between $390 million to $410 million.

Packaged food company ConAgra Inc. is expected to report at 7:30 a.m. before the bell Wednesday. Analysts expect earnings of 46 cents a share for the second quarter. Also expected to report are A.G. Edwards, Red Hat, Global Payments and Micron Technology.

The Commerce Department is due to release the final third quarter GDP report at 8:30 a.m. EST Wednesday. The Labor Department is due to release the jobless claims data at 8:30 a.m. EST Wednesday. Economists expect jobless claims to increase by 18,000 to 335,000 in the week ended Dec. 18.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average climbed 97.83, or 0.92 percent, to 10759.43, beating the previous high of 10737.70 from Feb. 11. The Nasdaq Composite Index was up 23.06, or 1.08, to 2150.91, and the Standard & Poor's 500 index advanced 10.78, or 0.9 percent, to 1205.43, just shy of its former year high of 1205.72.


http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/041222/wall_street_2.html

PAR 13:01 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
US traders and banks seem not in the mood to buy dollars, they prefer commodities as hard assets.

dc fxq 12:54 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
honey brook 12:41 GMT

I have seen mention of something similar wherein these "players" only act once a month on the release of the US employment situation report.

Seems pretty specious to me, they appear to be hucking this "trading systems" for what I read.

gold coast martin 12:53 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
FWIW.....An aud short at 7672 level with exit at 7732 is a good little earner for the next 3hours...g/t

melbourne farmacia 12:52 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
honey brook - Some dead censored bloke posting a stupid question

dc fxq 12:52 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
gold coast martin 12:45

How true, huge burn/blow out rate in that game. Which is why they are all YOUNG tigers

gold coast martin 12:45 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
dc fxq 12:37 GMT December 22, 2004
All the young tigers will have shacles placed upon them....OPM=great weapon to accelerate the enhancement or destroy the reputation......g/t

dc fxq 12:37 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
gold coast martin 12:27

As I see it, they are simply playing the range and it appears from my work that RSI's on a 5 minute chart hae a lot to say about S/T movements back and forth.

It should be interesting Friday, Monday and Tuesday when most senior traders aren't going to be around leaving it all in the hands of the young tigers. Ah, were I still playing with OPM (other people's money) LoL -( wistfully)

KL KL 12:34 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
ok locking in my 25 pips and letting it run ....let see if I can tolerate biting my lips!!...forget about it out at 53 +49 - 17 - still +32...good enough...flat now re-long soon...lower

GOES B747 12:32 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Tallinn viies 12:27 GMT // with such a fire, only potatoes :)

gt

Tallinn viies 12:29 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
seems NYC came in and indicated to us level suitable for them to buy euros....
1,3345/50 held again. > 1,3405/10 soon my friends

Tallinn viies 12:27 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
GOES B747 12:17 GMT - no, I risk only with money. basically 1% probablity we may see 1,3130 today. so, choose your amount what you want to put under fire

gold coast martin 12:27 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
dc fxq 12:24 GMT December 22, 2004
LOL....dont i know it..its been like that for the last 4 months.....just need to know which leveraged funds are exiting and where they are re-positioning......g/t

dc fxq 12:24 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
gold coast martin 12:18

It is all in hot little hands of the leveraged accounts.

gold coast martin 12:18 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
NJ RT 12:11 GMT December 22, 2004
Euro has immediate resistance at 13335 and major resistance at 13267....the way volatility is due to thin liquidity i would not be surprised to see both breached within the next 24 hours////i am in the camp that we will print 13185 before christmas day......g/t

GOES B747 12:17 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Tallinn viies 12:14 GMT // cheers mate, you actually risk 1% to eat your undewear?! :)

gt

KL KL 12:14 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
rats long again at 1.9104 sl 8 below...this is trading day!!

Tallinn viies 12:14 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
GOES B747 11:49 GMT - 1,3130 is the level today which is 99% impossible.

Ldn 12:11 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
this needs to be watched in 2005 for a threat to the European Union with the talk of Turkey joining ..Europe can see uprising closer to home
ANKARA (AP)--Turkey's military Wednesday warned that Islamist groups continue to pose a threat to the mainly Muslim country.

The statement by the head of the military came amid growing pressure on Ankara to stem the military's influence following Friday's decision by the European Union to extend membership talks to Turkey.

NJ RT 12:11 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
gold coast martin: where do u think is the resistance point for eurusd? it breached 3350. Thank you

Tallinn viies 12:10 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Antwerp Tom 11:24 GMT - back from lunch.
before I went out euro traded at 1,3405. dont know yet why it back down here but I guess as liquidity under any noticable level London interbank boyz wanted to get sq before NYC comes in as you never know what some dumb corporate treasurer wnats to do before year is over....

still think buy on tips. cant see chance how euro can fall during this year. personally want to sell euro out before 31st.

gold coast martin 12:05 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
KL KL 12:02 GMT December 22, 2004
FWIW...cable resistance at 19091.....g/t

KL KL 12:02 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
In long her majesty again at 1.9121 sl 8 below....time to up a bit agaian imho

Ba 11:54 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Hi,
I have the following situation: I am a long-time Omega station user, and I do enjoy its analytical capabilities, but I have a trading account with a brokerage called censored Trading Technologies (they offer good spreads on indices and CFDs). The brokerage has its own trading platform, but I would really love to stick with Omega, because I am used to their system and do not want to lose all its advanced capabilities. On censored site they have a section devoted to integration of other trade platforms into their system (http://www.censored.com/english/dealstation/int/), but this task is to be performed by traders themselves, and it seems all Greek to me, since I am no programmer…-). I wonder if anyone has an experience of plugging Omega trade station into censored System. I would be even willing to pay for the codes that would allow me to do so…Please contact me on [email protected] for details.

chicago cal 11:53 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
buying cable appears to be a tough way to make a buck last two days

GOES B747 11:49 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
viies, as 1.3180 did not print yesterday; is it means that you withraw the call to eat your underwear if 1.3180 gits? :)

gt

GOES B747 11:48 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
no problem Tom;, just remember, brown side first :)

gt

Antwerp Tom 11:45 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
B747 Thanks for breaking news, i hope it will break lol

KL KL 11:45 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Well out at 53 that took care of previous loss still -1....waiting to renter long on gbpusd

GOES B747 11:43 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
tom ... kijk ook op the tweede mail .... breaking news !!!


gt

Antwerp Tom 11:42 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
B747, thanks got it, het blijft spannend...

Jkt Rick 11:40 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
watch out watch out big move coming up in the euro dont get slaughtered young bulls.

GOES B747 11:39 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
tom, you got mail

gl gt

KL KL 11:30 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Rats sl taken long again at 1.9143...sl 10 below...lets see

Antwerp Tom 11:24 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Viies, looks like 3405 has held (several tests last 3 days), so are we in a range 3345-3405? What do you think? GT GL

gold coast martin 11:23 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
gold coast martin 06:05 GMT December 22, 2004
LA Fxnew 05:39 GMT December 22, 2004

Recent economic data out of the uk suggests the BOE raised rates too fast too soon....next move may be a rate cut.....in the short term any entry around the 19285-90 region will yield a good return with an exit entry at 19184...at least...stops at ...19319....resistance at 19246..but in view of thin liquidity a breach is expected...

LA FXNEW,,,,thats where the flow was for the cable today.....g/t

KL KL 11:23 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
OK I am in long gbpusd 1.9151 sl 11 below...time to make a few pips...I hope....low enough short term. This few days are just so unpredictable...so lets see . GL gt all

Ltn th 10:59 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
guilford// ema-sma comparisons can be extremely rewarding for s/t trades. Problem is the infinity squared number of paramaters. Useful to think interms of boxcar integrator g(t)=1/w(f(t)+(w-1)g(t-1)) instead of usual trading type of representation as it is more intuitive. Start with weighting factor of 2 and work your way up. Compare to sma of various periods within an order of magnitude of w.

SanFrancisco TG 10:48 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
viies - tomatoe, tomato, potatoe, potato ,, all relative to me if its pips :)

Tallinn viies 10:38 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
SanFrancisco TG 10:14 GMT - bounce? its continuation or resuming an uptrend :)

guidlford complete_idiot 10:31 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Hi All

I am trying to put together a mechanical trading system based purely on technical indicators so i will be able to set up automated trading on metatrader or visualtrader from censored.

I have been looking into an ema cross with 30 pip price filter, that is do not enter until the price has closed +30 pips away from the level of the cross.

I am a bit worried that i am barking up the wrong tree as i have heard ema cross system are un-profitable.

Please could you give me some advice on this, and are there any good forums on trading systems. www.moneytec.com seems to be down or is it just me?

SanFrancisco TG 10:14 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Aok viies. Looks like we got that euro bounce anyway.

Tallinn viies 09:55 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
SanFrancisco TG 09:20 GMT - GDP numbers absolutly non event. been there seen that

Bahrain Within 10 Pips 09:37 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
if You own a conctrution company...work for one...etc..I suggest you trade for a living.. ;)

Bahrain Within 10 Pips 09:33 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
cork g 08:21 GMT December 22, 2004 //

a friend asked me the same ...the housing in London...did the FTSE Housing index...many months ago...
the long term is sell...about three years or so..
the index should start droping...if You own a house...lease it with current prices for the mentioned time

Ldn 09:30 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Weak dollar lures travelers to US, hotels benefit
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2004-12-21-exchange-rate_x.htm

PAR 09:28 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
BOE minutes will politically emphasize strong UK economy and be GBP supportive. Inflation will go higher in two years ?

SanFrancisco TG 09:20 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
viies - I am also in the camp of further Euro strength a bit later being likely, with 3350ish likely holding the current dip in strength. US GDP out in a while though so if I don't have what I'm looking for fairly soon I may wait until the data is done to do anymore.

Tokyo IM 09:16 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
tk jf/ are you here ? hello all

PAR 09:09 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
EMU 0.9 billion current account surplus in october vs € 2.2 deficit in september.

LDN LDN 09:07 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Dollar Strengthens As Oil Prices Continue to Recede

http://biz.yahoo.com/censored/041221/1103667849_72019_1.html

SanFrancisco TG 09:02 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
spa - yes, just a few minutes ago.

Tallinn viies 08:55 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
good morning world!
nice to see 1,3345/50 held again and probably later today we gonna see 1,3470/80 level.

if to check historical movements at the same time of the year then it appears most of the times there is close to 2% movements from now till the year end. and most of the time it moves to direction of the trend.

also want to point out IMM guys turned short during last period. close 5 bio euros sold and rate moved from 1,3470 down to 1,3150.
they may probably want to buy half of it (at least) back when 1,3470 taken out.
1,3750 target before year is out
good luck

La spa 08:48 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
TG Did you send a mail to me? Just asking for security reason
To be sure I am not been spammed.
Thanks
TV1 please delete my email
Thanks

Bahrain Within 10 Pips 08:39 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Day Trade
Currency Short Long TrendShort TrendLong
EURUSD 1.3410 1.3317 Hold Buy
USDJPY 104.5237 103.8870 Sell Hold
GBPUSD 1.9510 1.9266 Sell Hold
USDCHF 1.1565 1.1471 Sell Hold
EURCHF 1.5423 1.5364 Hold Hold
AUDUSD 0.7667 0.7621 Hold Hold
USDCAD 1.2303 1.2251 Hold Hold
NZDUSD 0.7173 0.7096 Sell Hold
EURGBP 0.6937 0.6845 Hold Buy
EURJPY 139.7749 138.7782 Hold Buy
GBPJPY 203.0855 201.0269 Sell Hold
CHFJPY 90.7513 90.0976 Hold Buy
GBPCHF 2.2457 2.2208 Sell Hold
EURAUD 1.7536 1.7408 Hold Buy
EURCAD 1.6473 1.6343 Hold Buy
AUDCAD 0.9415 0.9354 Hold Buy
AUDJPY 79.9604 79.3399 Hold Hold

GOES B747 08:39 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
FANNY MAE will not be funny later today

imo & gt

perrie como 08:38 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Oh I see cork ..wasn't here since am dropping into the forum at times

this is a good source
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000102&sid=a2SXFOdsxvFc&refer=uk

+ seen alos another intersting on the FT.com same argument
PS
however you can find your news of interests by simply browsing news trough the most used goog and yahu

alos your broker has to provide some, at least links were to find informations.

guess most ananlysts this years and managend funds will receive lotsa XMAX COAL

happy chaos 2005

Bahrain Within 10 Pips 08:32 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
chf sell same high and the same for yen

Syd 08:31 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
cork g check out the newspapers here
http://www.thepaperboy.com./uk/

B.A. BOCA 08:27 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
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cork g 08:21 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
perrie como 08:01 GMT December 22, 2004
can you tell me where I can read some news on london housing price information?thanks

Syd 08:18 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Japan's Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare said Wednesday that one person has tested positive for bird flu in Kyoto Prefecture in central Japan The ministry said it is "highly possible" that another four people also have the disease, the report added
Kyodo News

london pim 08:01 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
SanFrancisco TG // thanks

perrie como 08:01 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Lower pound mean usd/gbp, so stronger...would It be there interestets rates to rise much further than expectations, after the housing bubble looming out.



Weakness in the UK housing market, with a net 48% of surveyors reporting falling house prices in November, the weakest reading since December 1992.


Have a relaxfull seven eleven as some are already starting to feel the xmas year end trading water sipping champagne mood.

g/l to all anyway

Hong Kong Qindex 08:00 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
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perrie como 07:57 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
After another sleepy asean session seemingly the europen one is starting almost the same as yesterday. But with a lower Pound.

That's all I see

perrie como 07:51 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
I guess most talks here are just after being fooled by volatily in searching for some reason.

Also news and analysts around are helping much, since if they were trading what they say, most probably now were working for some charities more than interantional banks or newswires.

Happy Chaos 2005

SanFrancisco TG 07:51 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
pim - nfa.futures.org may be helpful to you as they are a regulatory body in the US with compliance issues records.

london pim 07:45 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
hello, can anyone give me information about these companies:

e-tradeforex.com
clearview capital

they both seem to be in some trouble with the regulators, not sure if anyone knows more.

thanks

SanFrancisco TG 07:42 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Ok spa, I'll drop you a line shortly. GVI you may want to erase his email if you're around.

Hong Kong Qindex 07:41 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
USD/CAD : Current Comment.  Register with Jay at [email protected] if you have no access to my page.

La spa 07:30 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
TG
my email is [email protected]

cork g 07:23 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
shanghai bc, could you share your view of SH property bubble? thanks!

SanFrancisco TG 07:16 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
spa - I have actually been pondering something like that, but have recently just been sharing a little in this forum. Bearing in mind I am not a 20 year veteran of institutional trading, I do feel my methodology is pretty stout. Do you have anyones email in this forum that I might have? Maybe they can give you mine.

GOES B747 07:09 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Qindex,

on which way it is not a good sign for the markets to trade below 1.3350?

gt

La spa 06:54 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
TG can you be of help to up and coming traders? even if for a fee?

Bahrain Within 10 Pips 06:48 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Today Maybe slower then yesterday

LA Fxnew 06:46 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
UK:

how do you know where the flow is?

UK 06:36 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
LA Fxnew 05:39 - trade the flow.

SanFrancisco TG 06:35 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Singapore Sfx 23:49 - sorry for late reply, have to do something other than look at screens at some point in the day :)

In answer to your question, yes my experience in learning how to obtain more frequent but smaller trades with a high level of accuracy was painful for a long time. But knowing that mathematically more pips are available through such an approach than by riding fewer trades of higher pip value along with the probability that greater tolerance for drawdown might generally apply to the more substantial pip per trade method, I pressed on.


The result has been my own arithmetic formula and an approach based upon certain percentages of time and price change which of course I cannot divulge. In the end I average 2 signals per day per currency, so even if only having one I can do 4 trades and do just fine. It sounds like something where you get 15 signals a day but it is not. Rather there are 1 to 5 strong/hard indications only, often just one. The indication is almost certain to yield 20 pips, and can end up yielding 100 pips. I just prefer to take profits quickly and not consume too much energy nursing a plant to fruit. More a matter of personal preference.

I can and have carried out accurate indications of up to a week. Interstingly the result of timing intra day is somewhat similar to Dans 15 minute SAR (I did a fast curiosity comparison), but there is definately a difference.

Syd 06:31 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Australian financial markets entered holiday mode Wednesday with the last of the year's key economic data dealt with on Tuesday and with institutional book squaring largely finished up last week, according to dealers.

Thin volumes on the Sydney Futures Exchange pointed to a government bond market now coasting in neutral with leveraged funds having made a steady withdrawal from the market in recent weeks.

At 0515 GMT, the Australian currency was quoted at US$0.7638, down from US$0.7666 late Tuesday, largely reflecting a firmer U.S. dollar. Against the yen, the local currency was quoted at Y79.69, compared with Y79.64.

With the market's holiday lock down expected to last until January, strategists have already turned their minds to 2005, with mixed views emerging about the currency's prospects.

The U.S. dollar's slide will again set the pace in the first half of the year but dealers are cautious about the Australian dollar's prospects as the domestic economy slows and concerns surrounding the current account deficit grow.

Global investor attitude toward Australia's current account deficit, which hit a record of 6.5% of gross domestic product in the third quarter, could have a huge bearing on the Australian dollar's outlook, dealers said.

And with U.S. interest rates likely to rise further in 2005, narrowing interest rate differentials could also be a factor that weakens the domestic currency.

Peter Jolly, currency strategist at National Australia Bank, said he expects a tougher year for the Australian dollar in 2005 as interest rates differentials with the U.S. contract.

"...2005 will be a year in which interest rate differentials will fail to deliver traction for the Australian dollar," he said.

The Reserve Bank of Australia signaled last week that interest rates are on hold for now with few inflationary pressures in the pipeline.

Dow

Bahrain Within 10 Pips 06:24 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Euro ..
I doubt it will trade below 1.3320 today

gold coast martin 06:06 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
exit entry=exit...

gold coast martin 06:05 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
LA Fxnew 05:39 GMT December 22, 2004

Recent economic data out of the uk suggests the BOE raised rates too fast too soon....next move may be a rate cut.....in the short term any entry around the 19285-90 region will yield a good return with an exit entry at 19184...at least...stops at ...19319....resistance at 19246..but in view of thin liquidity a breach is expected....g/t

gold coast martin 06:01 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
LA Fxnew 05:39 GMT December 22, 2004

LA Fxnew 05:39 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
hi guys...
can anyone share your opinion on gbp/usd pls?

thanks

Ldn 05:37 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Australian Dollar Drops on Speculation Yield Premium With U.S. Will Shrink LINK

gold coast martin 05:24 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Philly MD 05:14 GMT December 22, 2004
He is of the opinion that you can make money consistently by trading on the US payrolls data......he is a legend...in his own lunchbox!!!...

Philly MD 05:14 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
what is this guy saying when he talks about payroll trading?
http://www.geocities.com/jhgreenfield/payrolltradingsystem.html

Hong Kong Qindex 04:35 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
AUD/USD : Current Comment.  Register with Jay at  [email protected] if you have no access to my page.

London. 04:24 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
`Time Has Come'

``The economic picture will brighten only reluctantly,'' said Ifo President Hans-Werner Sinn at a press conference. ``The European Central Bank won't raise interest rates because it doesn't want to give further support to the euro's exchange rate and because the economy isn't developing accordingly.''

Sinn said ``the time has come'' for the ECB to sell euros to slow the currency's ascent
Euro May Drop on Speculation ECB to Keep Interest Rates on Hold

Hong Kong Qindex 04:19 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
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Springdale, Arkansas, U.S.A. BDH 04:12 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Shorted AUD/USD from 0.7649 :)

SAIHAT Right & happy new year & second 03:52 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   

0.7762 0.7753 R4
0.7724 0.7720 R3
0.7701 0.7699 R2
0.7695 0.7694 R1

AUD
0.7650 0.7651
0.7648 0.7644

0.7601 0.7600 S1
0.7595 0.7594 S2
0.7572 0.7568 S3
0.7534 0.7525 S4

Syd 03:46 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
The AUD/USD has pulled back from the high around 0.7685 amid talk of a large offer at 0.7690 from an Asian player. Traders speculate that the sell order might be option related. The AUD/USD move lower is being helped by a broadly
higher USD after GBP/USD selling gave the USD a bid tone. The AUD/USD is testing former resistance around 0.7655 and a break below that level targets a deeper
pullback towards yesterday's low around 0.7620. The AUD/USD trades 0.7656/[email protected]

http://www.dailyfx.com/currency_aud_thomson.html




Syd 03:13 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Watching CNBCasia just now FX analyst John Noonan , he was saying that the fund market are exceptionally long Kiwi and Aussie dollars and expects them to be in for a rough ride in the first part of 2005 , reason being they both have huge deficits and he expect the US rates to be at 3.5% by June therefore cutting he carry trade aspect. FWIW.

Syd 02:54 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Aussie Slips Lower On Fund Selling

Syd 02:37 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Actually just wanted to say that the US Government or the United Nations should consider giving Jay or John a position , when you consider how GV participants from all over the world manage to agree to disagree in such a favourable manner throughtout the year. Credit to them and a happy Christmas To all on GV and GV1

Sydney 02:29 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
AUD/USD close to major pivot point at 0.7695 ,corrective high hit on Apr. 7, Dec. 1 low and 50% retracement of fall from 0.7947 (Nov. 26 high); based on technical analysis, if this holds, AUD/USD may fall to at least recent 0.7442 low
Citigroup

knoxville dan-k 01:56 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
one more thing ill add before bed, if your charts will allow, put up your sar, sma 10,20 and ccy line and then track back in time and look at entrys and exits over the past few weeks, watch the 3 line crosses they need to be close together when they cross then write down where u would long and short on the sar line and count the wins and losses give u a better feel of what is happening, dont just jump off a mountain into a stream till u know how deep it is you might get stuck in the mud at the bottom--lol good night all, eyes tired

knoxville dan-k 01:47 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
well spa, if you notice imho, their are conflicting signals on the usd/jpy and eur/usd right now trade and use your stop losses, but probably best to be flat right now, as i posted im long on the usd/jpy at 104.36 with a stop at 20 so the position is not a clear as it was at 6am this morning or 3pm this afternoon im off to bed, u all have a great evening glgt and use your stops or papertrade until you really see it

La spa 01:40 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Dan What is your opinion about Eur/Usd Is it right to go short on it?

Rockford BDR 01:34 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Thanks dan-k that cleared somethings up for me. Wasnt watching the sma crossing.

knoxville dan-k 01:26 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
im hitting the hay in a few mins, but if you notice the sar line crossed the sma10,20,and the ccy price line indicating this to go short, now my stop is currently at 104.20 which is 16 pips below entry, now i have not yet closed my long even tho the sar says to, the reason for this is the eur/usd is indicating lower levels yet to come this is a cross refrence for me, i have noticed that generally the eur/usd vs the usd/jpy move almost opposite but my stop is in for now and ill be off to bed in a few, and like i said its not 100% but its pretty good - glgt

Chicago YM 01:21 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
evening people

knoxville dan-k 01:20 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
best advise is watch and study the charts, patterns and keep your stop losses whatever your pain level is and try to keep it as simple as possible-information overload can take away your focus

Hong Kong Qindex 01:20 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
EUR/USD : It is not a good sign when the market is trading below 1.3350!

Hong Kong Qindex 01:19 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Stockholm AGuy 01:17 GMT - You can sit tight and watch.... Cheers!

Rockford BDR 01:17 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
[email protected]!
dan-k

Stockholm AGuy 01:17 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Hong Kong Qindex 01:15 GMT:

...unless you're short. :-)

Rockford BDR 01:17 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
dank
I get what your saying. I changed my chart to 15min and it makes more sense. What I mean by punching in is just hit the sell or buy button and jump into trade. Im newbie and still doing tech analysis and entry orders for the bigger trades. Would like to have more ways of trading.
Thanks

Hong Kong Qindex 01:15 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
EUR/USD : It is not a good when the market is trading below 1.3350!

knoxville dan-k 01:13 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
well when i go for the whole thing i usually feel sick later and ask myself why, why, did i do that rofl!

Ldn 01:10 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
It is indeed a very, very sad dayAttack on U.S. Base in Iraq Leaves 24 Dead

knoxville dan-k 01:10 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
BDR what do u mean punching in trades? the sar line is a stop and reverse indicator, if you trade it you trade it on the sar line and exit and reverse on the next sar line, it is not 100% but i have yet to see anything that is, its like a oreo cookie you get the cream in the middle first--lol, but if you are real greedy you eat the whole thing, glgt

knoxville dan-k 01:05 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
BDR parabolic sar settings are close 0,02,2 and i did not mention this before but i watch a mountain chart or line chart with that, glance at candlesticks

wellington 00:59 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Market talking about further falls for Kiwi in the New Year

Syd 00:57 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Western Australian Premier Geoff Gallop on Wednesday urged Federal Treasurer Peter Costello to reject Xstrata Plc's Gallop said it isn't in Western Australia state's best interests for the bid to succeed.
"Xstrata's record in Western Australia casts extreme doubt on its ability to act as a good corporate citizen, which is one good reason why it should not be trusted with the large Western Australian mineral reserves held by WMC Resources," Gallop said in a statement.

Syd 00:42 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
GBP/USD close below 1.9015, neckline of topping formation on daily chart, would confirm this topping formation and imply risk of drop towards 1.8640-1.8775 area
technical analysis shows weekly momentum also turning down, implying outside chance of fall as far as 1.8285
Citigroup



Syd 00:40 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Big on-year fall in Japan November trade surplus suggests economy may be in mild recession .Trade data show export performance was far weaker than expected. Coupled with signs of weakening domestic demand, the economy may already be in mild recession.

UFJ Institute senior economist Tatsushi Shikano.

Rockford BDR 00:28 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
knoxville
Are you just punching in trades or are you doing entry trades with that. Also what are your settings on the P-sar?
Thanks

Singapore Sfx 00:15 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Just the price of perfection, I guess, th. Think the ones to watch will be the Ashes and the Aus/Rest of the World stuff next year.
Pakis a bit too substandard at the moment and didnt have the foresight to refuse playing in Perth on a tour opener ... that'll probably haunt them for the rest of the series ...

Ltn th 00:11 GMT December 22, 2004 Reply   
Sfx// Bit of a dissapointment with tests. Looking like we wont see that many actual days of play each time.

 




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