Antwerp Tom 23:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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Hi Martin, any ideas/pojections on price action after trade data? GL GT
Gold Coast martin 23:51 GMT September 9, 2004
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Major resistance barrier at 12252.....it should hold at least until US trade data release...g/t
FWIW..i am short short euro as well.......
Antwerp Tom 23:43 GMT September 9, 2004
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They do this (statements) 'cause they're jealous that only AG is market mover
LA fxnew 23:38 GMT September 9, 2004
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someone kills yellen pls ...
my possie is being trapped cuz his statement
SYD 23:33 GMT September 9, 2004
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http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuoteCompanyNewsArticle.jhtml?duid=mtfh60477_2004-09-09_21-48-33_nat000913_newsml
SYD 23:32 GMT September 9, 2004
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Data hurdle high for rate hike pause--Fed's Yellen
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Brisbane L 23:26 GMT September 9, 2004
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Just hearing that PIMCO's chief economist Paul McCulley during an interview with CNBC said "Fed to raise rates later in month, then step back and review economic landscape before proceeding with tightening cycle " . PIMCO is world's largest bond fund FWIW.
Brisbane L 23:20 GMT September 9, 2004
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quit0_ecuador_valdez thanks
quit0_ecuador_valdez 23:15 GMT September 9, 2004
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Events FX Sept 10
C'cy Event GMT CONSENSUS PREV.
AUD Pre-Elect'n Fiscal Economic Outlook 1:30
CHF GDP Q/Q (Q2) 5:45 0.5% 0.4%
CHF GDP Y/Y (Q2) 5:45 2.0% 1.5%
JPY Consmr Confidence (Aug) 6:00 48 48.7
JPY BOJ Mo. Report 6:00
FRF Frnch Trade Bal (July) 6:45 -&eur;100M -&eur;304M
ITL Italian GDP sa Q/Q (Q2 final) 7:30 0.30% 0.40%
ITL Italian GDP sa Y/Y (Q2 final) 7:30 1.1% 0.70%
EUR EZ OECD Leadng Indcatr(Jul)10:00 --- 106.3
CAD Unemployment Rate (Aug) 11:00 7.20% 7.20%
CAD Net Change in Employment 11:00 20k 8.7k
CAD Intern'l Mdse Trade(July) 12:30 C$7.2B C$8.6B
USD Prodr Price Indx M/M (Aug) 12:30 0.2% 0.1%
USD PPI Ex Food EnrgyM/M(Aug) 12:30 0.1% 0.1%
USD Producr Price IndxY/Y (Aug) 12:30 3.6% 4.0%
USD PPI Ex Food EnrgyY/Y (Aug) 12:30 1.8%' - 1.7%
USD Trade Balance (July) 12:30 -51.5B -55.8B
USD Fed McTeer Speaks 13:30
USD Fed Pianalto Speaks (Econ) 14:30
houston ken 22:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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BREAKING NEWS
Dollar Drops in NY Afternoon Trade as Fed Governor Janet Yellen said the US Trade Deficit to widen as long as dollar stays at present levels, and there would only be a turnaround in the trade gap if it involves the dollar. Statements by the Fed that imply further dollar declines are a rarity. Fed Chairman Greenspan always hinted at his inability to determine the real exchange rate of the dollar considering the swelling deficit, but he never factored in a dollar decline as a requirement to a slowing in the deficit since he always showed confidence in foreign demand for US capital. The impact could be further compounded ahead of Friday's July US trade figures, which follow a record breaking $55.8 billion in June.
EURUSD shot up to $1.2237 from $1.2190 in minutes after the statements
Brisbane L 22:55 GMT September 9, 2004
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Australian Treasury is to release its pre-election fiscal and economic outlook today 1.30GMT and a budget surplus expected, figure may show higher than anticipated A$5bn surplus. May a forecast budget surplus of A$4.6bn for the year ended 30 June 2004 based on GDP of 3.75%, and a $2.4bn surplus for the following yr, based on a GDP of 3.5%.
quit0_ecuador_valdez 22:48 GMT September 9, 2004
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Opps..Sorry, I miscoded the link to the calender below, try THIS. It's the whole week of events broken down by day/GMT hour.
quit0_ecuador_valdez 22:39 GMT September 9, 2004
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Best global FX oriented event calender I've found (in GMT too): HERE. Bookmark it if U don't have a good calender. Also, a good FX news page: HERE. Plus: click "Analysis & News" on right sidebar nav of this GV webpage.
Retracement to 1.2380 or higher for €/$ isn't out of the possibility soon.
Sydney 22:26 GMT September 9, 2004
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pd cumino thanks, thought so just wanted to confirm
quit0_ecuador_valdez 22:18 GMT September 9, 2004
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NYC PCM// suggest you read posts below and take a peek at an event calender. I posted same a day ago.
NYC PCM 22:15 GMT September 9, 2004
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anybody know if any news or anything cause the run up in Euro in last hour - been away from desk.
pd cumino 22:10 GMT September 9, 2004
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Imm positions are those you know from the last CFTC report.
The more timely margin positions show AUD specs flat (updated Sep 8).
quit0_ecuador_valdez 22:09 GMT September 9, 2004
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VA Raven// Good point..we've not been in surplus since Columbus was a corporal. JFK wanted to bo back on the gold standard, the gov/treasury wanted to do away with the silver standard. Why? So they could print as much bogus money as they wanted. Now the U$D is backed by less than 7% precious metals. The idea of having real currency died with JFK. With real currency (100% backed) there would be no trade deficit (well, yes there could, but you'd have less money!). Do these parts of the picture fit together easier now?
Sydney 22:05 GMT September 9, 2004
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pd cumino any idea of the IMM short and long positons on the AUD at present , thought they would by now be about square on the spec side ? if not no worries
paris jb 22:04 GMT September 9, 2004
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jpy GDP is in 2 hours or 2morrow?
Va Raven 22:00 GMT September 9, 2004
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Brilliant, cumino!
quit0_ecuador_valdez 21:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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Evidently I was right a couple months ago, Fed CAN'T raise rates at this time, and it jumped the gun in my book when it left 1.0%. If Mr. Fedspan continues to raise rates it would quell any growth the U.S. has made and they're still not out of the dark, not by a long shot. The Fed & govm't are doing doublespeak for some reason:
FACT 1: The dollar has weakened 8.3 percent against the euro and 6.4 percent against the yen in the past year.
FACT 2: Snow: "I often reiterate our policy, which is the policy of a strong dollar". Get a grip!
FACT 3: If U.S. has strong $, growth slows because exports slow, therefore trade def. soars. So Fed CAN NOT raise rates yet unless they want to destroy what the econ has meagerly gained. They've goofed before however.
Personally I think the rate increase from 1.0 was to quiet a whining EZ, nothing more, just political garbage to keep EZ quiet & they really didn't have any intention of raising rates more for at least 6 mo - 1 yr. Fedspan never SAID they would, now did he.
pd cumino 21:56 GMT September 9, 2004
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I understood you were kidding, but someone could be curious to know. In fx terms anyway there is not so much difference between 1804 and 1975. GL mate.
Ltn th 21:55 GMT September 9, 2004
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Can anyone give some perspective to UK economy and scale of repatriation either in GBP's themselves or euros or swissy? Could the euraud selloff last night be an intermediate atefact of such a process and locking away of windfall profits from Qantas and others? Does the UK cabinet shuffle have some impact on EMU process?
Va Raven 21:52 GMT September 9, 2004
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Just kidding, cumino, the point is that market wouldn't be surprised if a deficit seen tomorrow.... Cheers!
GOES B747 21:52 GMT September 9, 2004
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taking 56days options on the following prices (PUT-CALL):
EUR/USD: 1.2070/90-1.2340/60
USD/JPY: 108.40/50-110.60/70
EUR/JPY: 131.80/90-135.00/10
GBP/JPY: 193.40/60-196.50/70
enjoy your trading day, I do not feel doing SPOT...see you all next week.
gt
pd cumino 21:49 GMT September 9, 2004
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If I remember well it was 1975 Raven
Va Raven 21:40 GMT September 9, 2004
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Tomorrow's trade deficit is set to be a bad one, but as long as it's not worse than last month, it should be a "good" one. Believe the PPI tomorrow shold be the data to trade on which would work for dollar either way.
Mind you, we don't remember when was the last time that US trade was in surplus..... 1804?
jkt-aye 21:40 GMT September 9, 2004
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here we go again :)
Fed to pause in rate rises, data hurdle has to be high
Funds rate still near emergency level
London ar 21:39 GMT September 9, 2004
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The dollar pared its gain against the yen and fell against the euro after Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco President Janet Yellen said after a Seattle speech that the long-term current-account deficit may exceed 5 percent of gross domestic product.
The U.S. current account deficit widened to a record $144.9 billion in the first quarter, equivalent to 5.1 percent of GDP, as companies imported more to meet the demands of a stronger economy.
Strong Dollar
Treasury Secretary John Snow repeated his stance that the U.S. supports a ``strong-dollar'' policy. The dollar has weakened 8.3 percent against the euro and 6.4 percent against the yen in the past year.
``I often reiterate our policy, which is the policy of a strong dollar, a policy that we have stood behind since my first days in office,'' Snow said. His comments came in an interview with CNBC.
GOES B747 21:38 GMT September 9, 2004
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Geneva DC 21:35 GMT September 9, 2004
looks like the 'yelling' circle is long EUR
wisconsin tim 21:37 GMT September 9, 2004
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selling cable ... 3 times a charm
3 times doesn't look very charming ... getting out above 7890
Arlington Spen 21:37 GMT September 9, 2004
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jkt-aye 21:30 GMT September 9, 2004
Hmm, interesting. Is she saying we have a huge trade deficit because the dollar is too strong? Hard to believe.
Geneva DC 21:35 GMT September 9, 2004
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and - suddenly - appeared - - - THE JOKER
Let the Joker yellen as much as he likes!
dc fxq 21:33 GMT September 9, 2004
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jkt-aye 21:30 GMT
what a feeble excuse, Yellen is about as powerful as Mr Bean in US financials/governmental circles.
Dallas GEP 21:31 GMT September 9, 2004
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1.2235 could work well as well
wisconsin tim 21:30 GMT September 9, 2004
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NYC thanks, thought there was a pres commentary but haven't heard news of any kind yet
jkt-aye 21:30 GMT September 9, 2004
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FED's Yellen - trade deficit to widen in long run if Dollar stays at present levels (REUTERS)
London ar 21:30 GMT September 9, 2004
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i'm short eur/usd at 1.2227 - should wait till some volumes are injected in a few hours
NYC TS 21:29 GMT September 9, 2004
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The dollar reacted to a comment by SF Fed President Janet Yellen that the trade deficit will widen in the long run if dollar stays at present levels, and turnaround in trade deficit must involve the dollar.
wisconsin tim 21:27 GMT September 9, 2004
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selling cable ... 3 times a charm
London ar 21:27 GMT September 9, 2004
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i think we have hedge funds in play here
QC Swap 21:27 GMT September 9, 2004
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London ar 21:25 GMT
Shorted at 1.2225
QC Swap 21:26 GMT September 9, 2004
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Yeah, this is quite a lot of action after 5:00 p.m. E.S.T
GOES B747 21:25 GMT September 9, 2004
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looks like money came back from a summer vacation in monastery and looking to go wild...very wild !!!
btw, no one that could see the future is alive while the one that made the future is laughing…
gt
London ar 21:25 GMT September 9, 2004
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QC Swap 21:22 GMT September 9, 2004
Shorted Eur/Usd. Yeah, I'm a seller!
at what level if i may ask?
Charlotte,North Carolina SVI 21:25 GMT September 9, 2004
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Dallas GEP
Thanks
dc fxq 21:24 GMT September 9, 2004
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right now the only trading is in Wellington NZ as Tokyo isn't in yet.
QC Swap 21:22 GMT September 9, 2004
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Shorted Eur/Usd. Yeah, I'm a seller!
dc fxq 21:22 GMT September 9, 2004
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wisconsin tim 21:19 GMT
No. Just a 4:42 AP update of the early news on the Al Qaeda tape to Al Jazeera.
Dallas GEP 21:21 GMT September 9, 2004
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SVI, actually a short around 1.2240 with 1.2260 should work if NOT you only lose 20 pips
Chicago Goofy 21:21 GMT September 9, 2004
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I have been trapped straight down on the bull euro road. Any one can tell if it is good entry point to finish/recover this week, short at @ 1.2250?
Thanks, I am newbie...
Rivonia PipPirate 21:20 GMT September 9, 2004
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My guess: Saddam escaped!!!
london chippie 21:19 GMT September 9, 2004
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Sellers at 1.2210/20; Stops at 1.2230 and
1.2250' Bids at 1.2160 and 1.2120/30.
Dallas GEP 21:19 GMT September 9, 2004
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Ok screw it.....In more at .6842 on EUR/GBP
wisconsin tim 21:19 GMT September 9, 2004
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wasn't there a pres speech at 5 EST?
GOES B747 21:18 GMT September 9, 2004
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good evening,
bullet proof jacks (or deep pockets) will do the best for day traders during the last trading day of this week.
I think that Friday's ranges will be wider than Thursday's :-)
good and safe trading...smile all the way !!!
dc fxq 21:18 GMT September 9, 2004
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certainly not based on any hard news aside from the already noted Al Qaeda tapes.
Charlotte,North Carolina SVI 21:18 GMT September 9, 2004
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Dallas GEP 21:14 GMT September 9, 2004
do u think 1.250+ a good sell for eur$?
thanks
NYC YIPPEE 21:18 GMT September 9, 2004
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YOURS............
TIMBER.....
NAUGHTY, NAUGHTY OPTIONS DESK !
ICT ML 21:17 GMT September 9, 2004
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that is a wierd time of day for that anti$$$ spurt there......must be news driven??????
Geneva DC 21:16 GMT September 9, 2004
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maybe option-driven
maybe gasping little-fish-driven
Dallas GEP 21:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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Eur/gbp prints 6843 and I am in SHORT. 1.2250 should be option defense on Euro. Sellers should be in 42-46 area
romania nick 21:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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does anyone know the reason of this movement??
London ar 21:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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the dollar is collapsing against the euro!!
any idea what's happening???
dc fxq 21:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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or someone thinks its Friday afternoon not Thursday.
Chicago Goofy 21:12 GMT September 9, 2004
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Option driven, I think
dc fxq 21:10 GMT September 9, 2004
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Given the fact that there is no depth or liquitity in the pairs being moved around in the market at this time of day, anything is possible for gunslingers
Geneva DC 21:10 GMT September 9, 2004
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PRESSLAND PULIZER why don't you just send us your entire Bookmark page?
could economize your multiple posts of links into one...
QC Swap 21:09 GMT September 9, 2004
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I too got rid of my Usd/Cad longs
LA fxnew 21:04 GMT September 9, 2004
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holy.. holy ... what brought cable that high in one move?
Dallas GEP 20:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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Closed remainder of usd/cad longs.
Dallas GEP 20:54 GMT September 9, 2004
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The GENERAL direction of IVAN COULD place it on WEST coast side of Florida (instead of east coast side)
Dallas GEP 20:50 GMT September 9, 2004
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Ok Ivan went over Grenada causing 91 deaths and estimated 90% damage. Winds are 160 MPH. This a a legitimate category 5 hurricance headed for the Bahamas and then Cayman Islands (which has never been hit by a hurricane). I feel for all of our Florida guys, VV, OMIL, Boca Raton and others. You guys take care of yourselves and family.
wellington am 20:46 GMT September 9, 2004
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Dallas GEP 17:16 GMT September 9, 2004
thx Dallas. Shorting more Eur/Aud.
Kiwi/ozzy cross will pull the roo back up.
van revdax 20:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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now into selling...
van revdax 20:13 GMT September 9, 2004
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jkt-aye 20:03//I have already taken profit on my $/JY poss and not into selling Euro with a tight stop.
jkt-aye 20:05 GMT September 9, 2004
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btw I like your Special Menu today. Thx
jkt-aye 20:03 GMT September 9, 2004
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Revdax, from my weekly level, 110.9x act as sell stop.
van revdax 19:53 GMT September 9, 2004
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Boca Raton 19:12 GMT September 9, 2004
Revdax, 240.50 strap it on now!
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What do you mean? Sell?
GER ad 19:51 GMT September 9, 2004
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AUD/CAD long,
1/2 position closed at 0.8854 and moved S/L for the rest at cost
PRESSLAND PULIZER 19:48 GMT September 9, 2004
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http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/columnists/9517612.htm?1c
PRESSLAND PULIZER 19:46 GMT September 9, 2004
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http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=58&story_id=621&name=The+incredible+story+of+the+Cr%E9dit+Lyonnais
PRESSLAND PULIZER 19:42 GMT September 9, 2004
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http://www.faz.com/IN/INtemplates/eFAZ/docmain.asp?rub=%7BB1311FCE-FBFB-11D2-B228-00105A9CAF88%7D&doc=%7BF9FBD2BB-D869-4DF9-8E33-E7DDEB4F4DA4%7D
come on and lay with me
come on and lie to me
tell me you love, say that I am the only one.
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Dallas GEP 19:25 GMT September 9, 2004
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Sell orders waiting are a EUR/GBP short at .6843. Bye for now
Dallas GEP 19:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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censored!!! 1.2860 @ 1.2875!!!!
Dallas GEP 19:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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Closed those 1.2560 longs on USD/CAD @ 1.2575. Other cad longs still working.
Boca Raton 19:12 GMT September 9, 2004
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Revdax, 240.50 strap it on now!
Ormond Beach ag 19:12 GMT September 9, 2004
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van, Japna GDP number out tonight. Expected to be revised higher. so may want to hold on for the news.
van revdax 19:08 GMT September 9, 2004
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Anyone could tell me how high $/JY could go? TIA
ICT ML 19:07 GMT September 9, 2004
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YIPPEE must be looking at the Orders book ;->
nyc jk 19:04 GMT September 9, 2004
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NYC YIPPEE 18:57 GMT September 9, 2004
88 given, nice call man!
Philadelphia caba 19:00 GMT September 9, 2004
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Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 18:55 GMT September 9, 2004
funny.. in my TA still give me info eur/usd about 1.2125, but gbp/usd 1.7879. maybe cross rate eur/gbp will drive this scenario.
May I ask you for your view on EUR/GBP? Thanks.
dc fxq 18:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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Boca Raton 18:54 GMT
No reference to hiding in caves or mosques of course.
Gold Coast martin 18:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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Typical Arab mentality..instead of checking the credibility of the tape..not hard...they just put it on air to incite more tension....next target for US planes should be AL JAZEERA TV...SORRY for the taking up of space....
NYC YIPPEE 18:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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FWIW In 17 minutes EURUSD will trade at 1.2188.
Next, it may (Or it may not) trade at 1.2193.
Good trades.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 18:55 GMT September 9, 2004
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funny.. in my TA still give me info eur/usd about 1.2125, but gbp/usd 1.7879. maybe cross rate eur/gbp will drive this scenario.
Boca Raton 18:54 GMT September 9, 2004
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dc fxq 18:49
Thats nothing that a few Tactical Nukes won't fix.
NYC NYC 18:53 GMT September 9, 2004
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Thanks for the info dc.
dc fxq 18:49 GMT September 9, 2004
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CAIRO, Egypt (AP) -- Osama bin Laden's deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, said mujahedeen, or holy fighters, have taken control of much of Afghanistan and driven U.S. forces into the ``trenches,'' according to a tape aired on Al-Jazeera TV Friday.
Wearing a white turban, the bespectacled Egyptian surgeon said ``southern and eastern Afghanistan have completely become an open field for the mujahedeen.''
``As for the Americans, they are now lying in their trenches, refusing to come out to meet the mujahedeen, despite the provocation of attacks, hits and carjacking.''
From AP
The last pop in EURUSD was on this.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 18:48 GMT September 9, 2004
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LA fxnew 18:36 GMT September 9, 2004
from high 110.05 move down to 108.52..bottom
Ormond Beach, FL ag 18:40 GMT September 9, 2004
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well they do have a platform and advertise on the left column :) But their research material is available free to all. The article title is "FX Correlations:How Do Currencies Move In Relation To Each Other?" and I suppose any experience trader would know where to find it ;) (hint: they have over 20 billion $ in asset with 3000 employees etc....) GL, GT
LA fxnew 18:36 GMT September 9, 2004
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Thanks raden ...
one more thing; what do you think of usd/jpy?
Dallas GEP 18:35 GMT September 9, 2004
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yes ABB sorry, typing sucks
Dallas GEP 18:34 GMT September 9, 2004
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Well AG, I am not the moderator here but the forum rules allow that as long as it is not an advertisement or a platform provider's site for instance.
Ormond Beach ag 18:30 GMT September 9, 2004
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Dallas: Hi, Is it OK if I post a pdf link to interesting article regarding correlation among currency pairs?
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 18:28 GMT September 9, 2004
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LA fxnew 18:22 GMT September 9, 2004
I mean 1.7972 or 1.7992 (max)
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 18:27 GMT September 9, 2004
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LA fxnew 18:22 GMT September 9, 2004
tomorrow ideally get top 1.7992
LA fxnew 18:22 GMT September 9, 2004
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hi raden:
do you think cable will move up to 1.8012 tomorrow?
Or down to 1.76xx?
Thanks
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 18:19 GMT September 9, 2004
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hello.. still not yet buy signal for eur/usd. keep selling although gbp/usd move up wait at 1.7877 for sell gbp/usd again. maybe eur/usd stay , wait gbp/usd touch 1.7879 and then move down together . my resaon is if I look usd/Cad near 1.2845 and seem ready to invite usd buyers from there, so this scenario make eur/gbp move down.
Jeddah abb 18:19 GMT September 9, 2004
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Dallas GEP 18:07 GMT September 9, 2004
Closed Aussie longs....added again on CAD longs @ 1.2560
do you mean 1.2860 and not 1.2560 ??
Dallas GEP 18:13 GMT September 9, 2004
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Stops on all USD/CAD longs is 1.2837,
Bydgoszcz Poland radek 18:12 GMT September 9, 2004
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It's time to short eur/gbp
Dallas GEP 18:07 GMT September 9, 2004
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Closed Aussie longs....added again on CAD longs @ 1.2560
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 17:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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ideally eur/usd go down although gbp/usd up caused by cross eur/usd seem will down.
Dallas GEP 17:43 GMT September 9, 2004
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RE: AUD/USD. While it is generally true that the AUSSIE and EUR/USD move in the same direction, the MOST influential pair on AUD/USD is AUD/JPY. They almost ALWAYS move together and as we have seen today it can make aussie long even while eur/usd is shorting.
Babuyan Isl MGW 17:43 GMT September 9, 2004
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good night to all of you. good trades today. time to get some sleep! :) gl!
Dallas GEP 17:34 GMT September 9, 2004
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closed eur/usd shorts look to be stalling
london chippie 17:33 GMT September 9, 2004
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TA gep --- but decided against it...wait for higher levels if seen.
saloniko 2004 nk...1.4088 17:26 GMT September 9, 2004
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Good Evening ...
Hope everyone is fine and cool after the 2004 Athen Olympics..
nk*!*
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 17:22 GMT September 9, 2004
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gbp/usd now is on the buy level. 1.7812
nyc jk 17:21 GMT September 9, 2004
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covered short AUD.......GEP that EUR/AUD looks good for a few pips in the short term I think too. gl
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 17:18 GMT September 9, 2004
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Philadelphia caba 17:16 GMT September 9, 2004
deposit possie = position that will be hold
Dallas GEP 17:16 GMT September 9, 2004
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eur/aud good short now...with stop above todays high
paris jb 17:16 GMT September 9, 2004
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hi Traders,
Dammam A 16:53 GMT , well beter to sell a break of 12850, since it's major support or wait and sell the strengh at 129~12930 area
GL GT
Philadelphia caba 17:16 GMT September 9, 2004
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Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 17:07 GMT September 9, 2004
eur/gbp chart seem still difficult to get 0.6850.
action sell now for deposit possie.
Hi, what do you mean "deposit possie"? Thanks.
QC Swap 17:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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Going long Usd/Cad
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 17:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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it's time to buy aud/usd
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 17:07 GMT September 9, 2004
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eur/gbp chart seem still difficult to get 0.6850.
action sell now for deposit possie.
london chippie 16:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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dallas GEP ---any comments on the eur/aud ....looks tempting....just hit top of trendline(26/08..02/09)...daily an hourly rsi's o/s...but big potential to burn fingers.
houston ken 16:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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GER ad how is the aud cad working for you.
GER ad 16:55 GMT September 9, 2004
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houston ken 16:47,
AUD/USD near support 0.6850
USD/CAD near support 1.2850
AUD/CAD long in this moment could be a nice trade by close tomorrow (40 - 50 pips for S/L needed IMHO).
Dammam A 16:53 GMT September 9, 2004
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Hello people ...
Is it OK to short USD/CAD now(1.2862)?
houston ken 16:47 GMT September 9, 2004
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ger ad what made you to go long on aud cad?? pls explain ??
Dallas GEP 16:37 GMT September 9, 2004
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AUD/JPY still shorting pulling aud/usd for the time being but not for long IMO
GER ad 16:36 GMT September 9, 2004
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Long AUD/CAD at 0.8833
Antwerp Tom 16:36 GMT September 9, 2004
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Tim, you're right. If this forum behaviour sort of reflects the market and € maintains itself as we can see, then $ bulls like myself are in trouble...
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 16:34 GMT September 9, 2004
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isbon bb 16:23 GMT September 9, 2004
I think flat
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 16:30 GMT September 9, 2004
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gbp/usd.
I am worry chart will flat to get up band range 1.7879.
wisconsin tim 16:29 GMT September 9, 2004
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there seems to be an abundance of EUR short calls here today. We had almost the exactly same setup last week at this time on the dailys. History repeat? or a breakthrough to 2200+?
Dallas GEP 16:28 GMT September 9, 2004
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AUD/USD` Ken was going short due to aud/jpy shorts BOTH are at turning points BUT tight stops are required
Dallas GEP 16:27 GMT September 9, 2004
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LONGED aussie @ .6867, 20 pip stop looking for 30-40 pips
houston ken 16:27 GMT September 9, 2004
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people shorting euro people going long on aussi??
Dublin Flip 16:25 GMT September 9, 2004
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guys re Martin's post earlier...
As a warning, I'm not much of a day trader. I'm slowly building and part-trading a medium/ longer term position.
cheers and be lucky
Dallas GEP 16:24 GMT September 9, 2004
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Ken, what trend are you referring to???
lisbon bb 16:23 GMT September 9, 2004
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hello friend Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas
Just an advice ...do you think eur/usd will continue uptrend few minutes to come 5-min chart?
Antwerp Tom 16:23 GMT September 9, 2004
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Short €/$ @ 1.2193 GL GT
houston ken 16:22 GMT September 9, 2004
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why are these guys trading against a trend?
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 16:19 GMT September 9, 2004
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hello.. be carefull with gbp/usd now.. maybe can move up suddenly to get 1.7875
lisbon bb 16:15 GMT September 9, 2004
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as if I feel left chest pain after eur/usd touch 1.2200 anyway
I have made another short contract at that level but this time no greed...
London 16:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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hk mom agree with Gold Coast Martins post earlier oversold levels now. GL
hk mom 16:10 GMT September 9, 2004
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London 15:52 GMT September 9, 2004
AUD at support here? TIA
houston ken 16:09 GMT September 9, 2004
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MADRID ppp treat each pair as its own entity each curr pair has it behavior technically. being oversold in 1hr is not over sold daily onless there is divergence in any chart you are looking at then the trend is oversold or over bought .
NY Raider19 16:08 GMT September 9, 2004
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GBPUSD --- 1.7866 or 67 bid, just in the last few minutes right?
wisconsin tim 16:03 GMT September 9, 2004
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can anyone give me their high on GBP/USD the last hour tia
GVI john 16:02 GMT September 9, 2004
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Dallas GEP 16:00 GMT September 9, 2004
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Timeframes on charts for confirmations should be 2 and 4 hours guys. The 30 minute and 1 hour charts will get you in trouble in this market
Dallas GEP 15:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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OK MARC..I see. Well I guess if you are a positon trader that MIGHT work. I saw one tho where eur/aud possie was 930 PIPs DOWN!!! Even with a very large account, the logic was that the loss didn't show on the books unless it was closed so that led to TERRIBLE cash management.
MADRID ppp 15:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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WHY buying EURJPY since EUR is weak and JPY is strong??? Forex is very complicated.. I only would understand this opration in a very short period of time....EURJPY is oversold in 1h chart
QC Swap 15:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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I'll wait to short EUR/USD at better levels.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 15:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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gbp/usd
sell here 7874 with stp if show 1.7880
libon bb 15:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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I short few hours ago I waid profit to increase but...what can I say?
MADRID ppp 15:54 GMT September 9, 2004
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Lisbon.....very close Stop Loss @ 1.2204 from actual level in EURUSD......take ambulance phone in your hand
houston ken 15:53 GMT September 9, 2004
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buying euro yen here
ICT ML 15:52 GMT September 9, 2004
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Dallas GEP 15:13 GMT September 9, 2004
Marc, WTH would hold possies 300 pips in the hole???
"hk mom 14:49 GMT September 9, 2004
jk// I will not close my aud long at 0.7220 because bc, london and syd are on my side." .7220-.6875 = -345 and counting
HK AB bought Gbp-USD 1.8200 and still had it at 1.7700 area I believe.....1.8200 - 1.7700 = -500
I am not slamming these guys......just baffled about how stubborn they are about their trades. Maybe they will be okay......but I would have been fired by now if I pulled something like that.
London 15:52 GMT September 9, 2004
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van Gecko 07:33 GMT September 9, 2004
Ldn 07:10..
"..13:03 GMT September 2, 2004
levels from here down to Aud .6950 & Nzd .6450 if seen are good buys for pikers & positional players.. these rare inter-market abberations induced levels may not be seen again after this week.."
no change in view.. Nzd may had said good bye to .6450, but Aud are still at good buy levels..
in particular, selling EUR/AUD up here may be a faster way to get more pips into the fx piggybank while Euro wait for the Kangaroo to do its catch up hops..fwiw..
HK Kevin 15:52 GMT September 9, 2004
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Just short EUR/USD at 1.2192, will add at 1.2208, t/p 1.2145, s/l 1.2239
lisbon bb 15:51 GMT September 9, 2004
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EUR/USD i HAVE BEEN SHORT ON THIS PAIR I were out stop loss at 1.2204 I f that pair touch it that is mean heartache...
Dallas GEP 15:48 GMT September 9, 2004
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In @ 1.2192 short on EURO....coiuld see 1.2197
melb MA 15:42 GMT September 9, 2004
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1.2190 or 1.2090?
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 15:37 GMT September 9, 2004
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sell eur/usd again at 1.2090..best level.
Budapest Daniel 15:34 GMT September 9, 2004
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thanks Dallas
Dallas GEP 15:29 GMT September 9, 2004
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Completely off subject but just got a firebird with some slight modifications which gives it 460 rear wheel horsepower. It moves a helll of alot faster than some of these ccy's are!! LOL
eur/aud.....overbought but NEEDS confirmation..let it find it's top FIRST then look for retest THEN short (probably 1-2 days)
Gold Coast martin 15:23 GMT September 9, 2004
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Gold Coast martin 15:00 GMT September 9, 2004
FLIP...there is merit in your trade..once aussie market digests that Djakarta bombing is election directed rather than australian directed,and aussie employment figures become yesterdays news the aussie will rally back to 7025-30....i think there is still a bit more downside though ..possibly back to 6847....g/t
Above post on aussie applies until end of aussie session tommorow...g/t
Dallas GEP 15:23 GMT September 9, 2004
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Kevin, the 2 and 4 hour lower bollinger bands are working pretty well as entry points if other indicators confirm
Budapest Daniel 15:22 GMT September 9, 2004
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so no one have any idea on eur/aud :)
nyc jk 15:21 GMT September 9, 2004
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melbourne farmacia 15:14 GMT September 9, 2004
not raining right at the moment, but overcast and supposed to be rain on and off today. Hope your boy Hewitt likes it wet!
HK Kevin 15:18 GMT September 9, 2004
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Dallas GEP 15:10 GMT, Re: USD/CAD, I am waiting for Raden 1.2845 level to go long. Hope a break of previous low with no follow through on the downside. Stop below 1.2820.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 15:17 GMT September 9, 2004
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gbp/jpy still tend go down to get 195.10 - 1.9498 as the ideal bottom.
New-York 15:17 GMT September 9, 2004
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Good suggestion. Correct mechanism of work
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nyc jk 15:16 GMT September 9, 2004
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thanks vm ML. I will look to take the short back a little ahead of that, 50/55 area if seen. I wouldn't rule out a test of your lower level, but maybe a bit of consolidation needed first? yeah, it's kind of amusing to be told how to trade by someone who is sitting on a position 5% out of the money, but then again nothing really surprises me here.
melbourne farmacia 15:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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nyc jk 15:00 GMT September 9, 2004
cheers.. but just a historical observation....
ps - any rain in NYC today..for US open ?
hk mom 15:13 GMT September 9, 2004
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hk ab are you using bc, london and syd as contra indicators? TIA
NYC YIPPEE 15:13 GMT September 9, 2004
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ICT ML 15:08 GMT September 9, 2004
Let them crash and burn. If they are stupid enough to let " Some guy on the Internet " guide their financial future, they only have themselves to blame...
Dallas GEP 15:13 GMT September 9, 2004
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Marc, WTH would hold possies 300 pips in the hole???
Budapest Daniel 15:11 GMT September 9, 2004
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guys, any idea on eur/aud?
Dallas GEP 15:10 GMT September 9, 2004
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2 hour bollinger BOTTOM on usd/cad is 1.2867...bounced off that
hk ab 15:08 GMT September 9, 2004
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YIPPEE, that's v. welcomed, I will see if the "floor on the weekly chart holds or not.
But presently, it doesn't look any good at all and we still have 20 days before Sept ends.
ICT ML 15:08 GMT September 9, 2004
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JK I have Aud .6839 target and then .6770 dbl bottom tgt coming up. If market really wants to sell Aud those should be hit this week:-)
I cannot belive some of the stuff I see going on here....people holding trades that are/were 300-500 pips in the hole just because someone who posts here assures they will be okay?.....What if that someone (who I greatly respect as well) is wrong, or has the timing off a bit? What happens then.......my guess is then we won't be hearing from near as many HK traders if that happens...they will be broke.......and that would be a shame.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 15:07 GMT September 9, 2004
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GOES B747 14:57 GMT September 9, 2004
thanks you. but acually not like that.
I am not different with others. same..like u too.
Dallas GEP 15:06 GMT September 9, 2004
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1.2875 LONG some MORE on usd/cad
NYC YIPPEE 15:03 GMT September 9, 2004
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hk ab 15:01 GMT September 9, 2004
FWIW Getting close to my "Buy Zone".
I will post when I am long.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 15:03 GMT September 9, 2004
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usd/chf can move up fast if get 1.2647. target 1.2707 or 1.2726. move from there.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 15:01 GMT September 9, 2004
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remind you
usd/cad be carefull with 1.2845 like my view yesterday from top 1.2942. maybe usd buyers like that number for action.
hk ab 15:01 GMT September 9, 2004
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while the operator successfully manipulated the eur/jpy yesterday, another candidate, aud/jpy seems is not that lucky and doing the famous autumn dive now.
nyc jk 15:00 GMT September 9, 2004
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thanks for that farmacia. nice call on the aud last night .
Budapest Daniel 15:00 GMT September 9, 2004
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can anyone say a good entry point for eur/aud?
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 14:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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london confused 14:52 GMT September 9, 2004
sorry.. I must learn English more. :-)
melbourne farmacia 14:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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nyc jk 13:40 GMT September 9, 2004
Aussie - low end of my daily range 0.6842 fwiw
GOES B747 14:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 14:48 GMT September 9, 2004
it looks that your chicken coop is the largest in Asia, your are one of the better chicken thives. :-)
gt
Budapest Daniel 14:56 GMT September 9, 2004
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wow what happened to eur/aud? how far can it go up?
london confused 14:52 GMT September 9, 2004
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Raden
You may be great, but your english is not. Therefore it's very easy to get your trade ideas the wrong way round! You should be very clear in here in what you say.
hk mom 14:49 GMT September 9, 2004
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jk// I will not close my aud long at 0.7220 because bc, london and syd are on my side.
You better care about your sell the bottom buy the top idea.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 14:48 GMT September 9, 2004
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aud/usd
sell is good for now to get 0.6850 and cut reverse there.
topist sell level is 0.7901, start level from 0.6894
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 14:46 GMT September 9, 2004
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keep your seling eur/usd and gbp/usd.
Chicago Irish 14:40 GMT September 9, 2004
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From MNI:Commercial oil inventories (excluding SPR) dropped by 1.4 million barrels to it lowest levels since March 12th 2004.....Let's hope for a mild winter...
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 14:35 GMT September 9, 2004
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gbp/usd.. in my TA system need 2 minutes again to start go down.
GOES B747 14:30 GMT September 9, 2004
thanks you for your support.
that's bad habit in my country before election.
very bad.. :-(
Sofia Milen 14:35 GMT September 9, 2004
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But maybe 1.2670/90first.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 14:32 GMT September 9, 2004
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eur lg 14:24 GMT September 9, 2004
usd/chf is on the high potential buying action to move up fast and dow fast too if 1.2707 or 1.2726 be get, be carefull with that scenario.
for now is on the way to get 1.1.2697-07 or 1.2726. move from bottom 1.2630.
GOES B747 14:30 GMT September 9, 2004
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Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 14:23 GMT September 9, 2004
good afternoon,
First, I am deeply sorry for the sad news out of your land.
regarding your EUR/USD call, I think that we look on the same charts.
gt
melb MA 14:25 GMT September 9, 2004
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what was factory orders number please?
eur lg 14:24 GMT September 9, 2004
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Raden Mas another great call on usd chf from this mng.
Charlotte, North Carolina svi 14:23 GMT September 9, 2004
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$jpy is a lot of blink blink up dwn & up dwn gl,gt
will sell @ 109.95 [email protected] 10974
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 14:23 GMT September 9, 2004
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thinking eur/usd about 1.2125, 1.2105 or 1.2070 (extreme bottom).
Gold Coast martin 14:22 GMT September 9, 2004
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Now that tonites data is out of the way,there is enough liquidity in the market for pockets of resistance to start to be taken out on the euro..first one is 12152...be patient...g/t
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 14:22 GMT September 9, 2004
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eur/usd and gbp/usd now is under high probability to get selling pressure fastly. be carefull....
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 14:20 GMT September 9, 2004
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Los Angeles ss 14:16 GMT September 9, 2004
I have inform you since yesterday about 1.7812 as the bottom.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 14:17 GMT September 9, 2004
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don't forget that gbp/usd still have 2 hours to get 1.7777 as the bottom, but confirmation about 1.7777 if show 1.7810 early.
ideally move down fast and wake up fast too.
Los Angeles ss 14:16 GMT September 9, 2004
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Raden Mas == didn't understand your last post on GBP -- where do you see it going from here? Thanks.
GOES B747 14:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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imo, commodity prices value the inventories higher, very misleading number if you do not dig deep !!!
gt
NYC PCM 14:13 GMT September 9, 2004
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EUR/USD
We seem to have a really nice rounded top on this rally up from yesterday..............
Feels like my cyclical analysis may still prove to be okay.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 14:12 GMT September 9, 2004
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finally gbp/usd done at 1.7815 and get buting reaction.
have a nice you.
Sydney Alimin 14:04 GMT September 9, 2004
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well data dont help usd/jpy is tanking
KL KL 14:01 GMT September 9, 2004
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closed gbpusd short for 20 pips....need to sleep gl gt
Sydney Alimin 13:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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looks like euro is ready to go down more, will data help?
Dallas GEP 13:54 GMT September 9, 2004
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B747....not really,,,It was mistake on my part...should have let job numbers work a little bit.
Dallas GEP 13:53 GMT September 9, 2004
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Me too SWAP, Well at least we bank some money on it!!! LOL
nyc jk 13:52 GMT September 9, 2004
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hk mom 05:22 GMT September 7, 2004
syd, how about mine one then? any hope?
hk mom 06:01 GMT August 23, 2004
GOOD, the aud move starts!
longed .7220!
let me know when you bail out of your long so I can cover my short.
QC Swap 13:51 GMT September 9, 2004
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Closed my Eur/Usd a bit too early.
hk mom 13:49 GMT September 9, 2004
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nyc jk why short AUD down here at .6900 when you are so negative on the AUD? seems like your preference is to sell at the lows and buy at the highs with the flow? lol
nyc jk 13:41 GMT September 9, 2004
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fair enough th, just think we are going to trade a bit lower from here first, that's what makes a market though. gl
nyc jk 13:40 GMT September 9, 2004
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sfx - think that's definitely a factor imo. also as farmacia pointed out last night
melbourne farmacia 03:55 GMT September 9, 2004
KL KL - If that's correct.. would expect Aussie to fall some.... (as in Merritt hotel bombing last year....) fwiw
Ltn th 13:40 GMT September 9, 2004
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sorry last was for jk
GOES B747 13:38 GMT September 9, 2004
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GEP, is there a special reason to close short EUR/USD positions now?
gt
nyc jk 13:38 GMT September 9, 2004
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thanks for that chippie, apprec the view... seems to be holding in hear for now so see how we go, cheers.
Singapore Sfx 13:38 GMT September 9, 2004
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jk - the bomb blast next to the jakarta embassy u reckon ?
Ltn th 13:38 GMT September 9, 2004
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chippie/ it gives a nice opportunity for a fairly safe long. The movement in last hour probably response to US data.
london chippie 13:33 GMT September 9, 2004
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3rd attempt to break 6880 since the 3rd of this month ...daily rsi o/s ...cci divergence....small stop/worth a shot.
nyc jk 13:31 GMT September 9, 2004
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Ltn th 13:28 GMT September 9, 2004
AU jobs data seems cooled to make next release due two days before election really spectacular. No on believes them.
hmmm. if no one believes them th then why has AUD sold off so much both against USD and on its crosses?
Ltn th 13:28 GMT September 9, 2004
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AU jobs data seems cooled to make next release due two days before election really spectacular. No on believes them.
News coming out of Australia and Indonesia suggest solidarity an`d probability of serious problems for terrorists.
Question is where to set TP's and how much and how far to ride.
nyc jk 13:22 GMT September 9, 2004
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chippie - curious why you buying AUD here? stops under .6880 and unlikely to see people rushing in to buy after poor jobs data and jakarta bombing last night. short here looking for a move to .6850 fwiw
Dallas GEP 13:21 GMT September 9, 2004
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closed eur/usd shorts @ 1.2177
london chippie 13:16 GMT September 9, 2004
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long aud/usd @.6900 ..stop .6870 .....
NYC NYC 13:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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Price action and lack of flow here suggests market is in a quandry as to what to do next.
GVI Jay 12:49 GMT September 9, 2004
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Gen dk 12:43 GMT September 9, 2004
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KL KL 12:40 GMT September 9, 2004
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Ldn pm ...because hurricane put off some people...
Chicago Goofy 12:37 GMT September 9, 2004
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Digesting? LOL
Tallinn viies 12:37 GMT September 9, 2004
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Ldn pm 12:35 GMT - ´reacted ! from 87 down to 73
KL KL 12:36 GMT September 9, 2004
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right short gbpusd at 1.7845 sl 20 above looking for 1.7780....lets see how gbp bull push it
Ldn pm 12:35 GMT September 9, 2004
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Why no Usd reaction to the good initial claims data??
bombay a 12:34 GMT September 9, 2004
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thanks bah
GVI john 12:33 GMT September 9, 2004
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GVI Jay 12:30 GMT September 9, 2004
Jobless claims -44K to 319K
Bah Bahrain1 12:33 GMT September 9, 2004
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Bombay 1/// +319
Bah Bahrain1 12:32 GMT September 9, 2004
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Toronto,Dr Unken Kat 12.30/// Many thanks frnd.
Wish u all a very great day ..good luck to u all.
Dr.Unken/// I shall check that. GL.
bombay a 12:31 GMT September 9, 2004
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initial claims ???????? any one
Bah Bahrain1 12:30 GMT September 9, 2004
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Jobless claims +319
)toronto Dr Unken Kat 12:30 GMT September 9, 2004
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Bah. Bahrain1 12:27 GMT September 9, 2004
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SanFrancisco tg 12:29 GMT September 9, 2004
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Italy says terror attack imminent per Bloomberg.
Gen dk 12:28 GMT September 9, 2004
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Bah. Bahrain1 12:27 GMT September 9, 2004
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Hi Frnds, Good Day to u all,
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Mtl JP 12:22 GMT September 9, 2004
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or put differently: consensus: -17K vs previous +19K
NYC 12:20 GMT September 9, 2004
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Jobless claims expected 345,000 v. 362,000 in prior week
Mtl JP 12:20 GMT September 9, 2004
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12:30GMT - US - Initial Jobless Claims Market: 345K vs 362K last
Babuyan Isl MGW 12:17 GMT September 9, 2004
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what is the forecast for the US jobless claims?
pd cumino 12:12 GMT September 9, 2004
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Thank you v.m. For what you know or remember the changes in colour were hinted previously by media, newspaper or happened rather suddenly?
Cape Town 12:10 GMT September 9, 2004
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cumino - As from 1 Aug - "The United States Government raised the threat level to Code Orange for the financial services sector in New York City, northern New Jersey and Washington, D.C. The rest of the country remains at Code Yellow."
QC Swap 12:08 GMT September 9, 2004
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Closed short Eur/usd
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 12:02 GMT September 9, 2004
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eur/gbp still any space to get 0.6856
logic if eur/usd still difficult to drop and let gbp/usd drop early.
pd cumino 12:01 GMT September 9, 2004
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Please anyone could post what actually is the colour of terror alert in US and since it is so? TIA.
Dallas GEP 12:00 GMT September 9, 2004
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12:15 and 12:30 GMT we have CAD data HOUSING starts...US inital job claims at 12:30
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 11:55 GMT September 9, 2004
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plase keep selling for gbp/usd.
still not yet get buy signal until now.
hk jn 11:55 GMT September 9, 2004
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test
Dallas GEP 11:53 GMT September 9, 2004
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USD/JPY was taken out at BE. Good riddence, That LONG possie sucked from almost the beginning!!! LOL
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 11:52 GMT September 9, 2004
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sell more gbp/usd at 1.7843. tp 1.7812 (minimum) tp objective 1.7777
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 11:50 GMT September 9, 2004
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its time for gbp/usd down.
Babuyan Isl MGW 11:49 GMT September 9, 2004
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jobless claims at 1230 GMT.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 11:47 GMT September 9, 2004
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gbp/usd.
1.7812 is minor target.
ideally if move up fast to 1.77777, price move up from there.
maybe so many buyers wait there for action.
now difficult to go above 1.7837.
dc fxq 11:43 GMT September 9, 2004
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0830 EDT (1230 GMT)
Charlotte, North Carolina svi 11:42 GMT September 9, 2004
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I wish to say thanks &&&&&&&& many more thanks to all that make valid contribution to the forum, maybe one when a vbig shoot i hope to do same.
I am grateful gl>
LA fxnew 11:42 GMT September 9, 2004
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what time is the jobless claim?
THANKS..
Dallas GEP 11:31 GMT September 9, 2004
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Still have cad longs from 1.2902, Just took GBP/JPY short
Dallas GEP 11:27 GMT September 9, 2004
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Shorted some eur/gbp @ .6832
Tallinn viies 11:22 GMT September 9, 2004
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MNI:
$1.1975/1.2225 DNT option structure ends on Friday. another option barrier at $1.2250
fwiw
wellington am 11:22 GMT September 9, 2004
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Short EUR/AUD @ 1.7600
Gen dk 11:21 GMT September 9, 2004
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Babuyan Isl MGW 11:20 GMT September 9, 2004
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Cable just ignored the BOE decision. hopefully the jobless claims later can shake this market a bit.
London ar 11:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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lisbon bb 11:02 GMT September 9, 2004
loNDON
gbp/usd sell is the best trade?
i would say 17840-50 is a good level - could go for a hedge by shorting eur/gbp
Dallas GEP 11:08 GMT September 9, 2004
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got eur/usd short off a 1.2192 sell order` USD/JPY longs are only JUST now past BE. eur/gbp is good short in this area 6835-6850
lisbon bb 11:02 GMT September 9, 2004
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loNDON
gbp/usd sell is the best trade?
Makati Obelix 11:01 GMT September 9, 2004
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BoE leaves rate unchange.
London ar 11:00 GMT September 9, 2004
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BOE unchannged - no statement
Budapest Daniel 11:00 GMT September 9, 2004
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eur/$ short here either. no major movement since yesterday evening... :-/
lisbon bb 10:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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nyc pws 10:49 GMT September 9, 2004
very thanks for this advice.Till now remember the events of last week on EUR/USD before after and during data release there were a great disturbance.
QC Swap 10:55 GMT September 9, 2004
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Still holding Eur/Usd short.
nyc pws 10:49 GMT September 9, 2004
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there will inevitably be some action...be causious of the statement..that is going to be the key..a more dovish fed signaling the end of the tightening cycle should send the pound lower...I have traded previous BOE rate decisions, and the action can be very whippy while the information is absorbed..you may be better off letting the dust settle or trading a secondary move..if it is not clear cut off the bat..gt
lisbon bb 10:43 GMT September 9, 2004
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nyc pws
so we can say that there will be a move on GBP/USD pair few minutes to come??
NYC PCM 10:37 GMT September 9, 2004
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EUR/USD
I had not expected the rally we expereinced yesterday. If my analysis of the cyclicla picture is correct ti cannot continue and we should see an equally rapid move back down.
However until this happens and re-validates my "game plan" I have to assume I may be wrong. I am therfore standing clear for the moment.
nyc pws 10:30 GMT September 9, 2004
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BOE rate decision..market pricing in no move keeping the lending rate at 4.75...they key should be the statment..a more dovish BOE siting the prior hikes effects on the housing market in particular should send the pound lower 78, 7780, 7750 may offer support on the way down..gt.
London ar 10:29 GMT September 9, 2004
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will be announcement at 1100hrs GMT - expectation is that for the BOE to leave rates unchanged at 4.75% as house prices have started to cool off - in this case i would guess a short on GBP will be a good move. On the 1% chance of a hike of 25bp, we might see the GBP rally further
Gen dk 10:29 GMT September 9, 2004
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Philadelphia caba 10:26 GMT September 9, 2004
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Good morning everyone!
Any view on today EUR/GBP high?
lisbon bb 10:26 GMT September 9, 2004
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BANK OF ENGLAND RATE DECISION.
when will be announced?and its effect?
London ar 10:20 GMT September 9, 2004
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Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 10:06 GMT September 9, 2004
sell gbp/usd now !! dificult to show above 1.7845 again, but if show 1.7853..sell more there.
1.7812 is valid.
I would wait to short after BOE rate announcement in 40 minutes
lisbon bb 10:16 GMT September 9, 2004
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SAm is eur/usd still very great to short. 5-minut chart isnt looking bearish?
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 10:06 GMT September 9, 2004
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sell gbp/usd now !! dificult to show above 1.7845 again, but if show 1.7853..sell more there.
1.7812 is valid.
lisbon bb 10:03 GMT September 9, 2004
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as you said ..eur/usd short is reasonable trade.now my gain began to appear!!!
Thanks friend ..and sorry for inconvience.
slv sam 09:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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lisbon bb 09:44 GMT September 9, 2004 /
good trade!
pd cumino 09:55 GMT September 9, 2004
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lisbon bb 09:36 GMT September 9, 2004
May there isn't too much difference.
Gen dk 09:55 GMT September 9, 2004
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lisbon bb 09:44 GMT September 9, 2004
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That is right and still holding it??
slv sam 09:43 GMT September 9, 2004
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lisbon bb 09:36 GMT September 9, 2004 /
it is clear to me that you are short euro..in this case your post is understandable!GT
CT sim 09:41 GMT September 9, 2004
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lisbon bb, slowly now, Ger ad is a top trader, very very seldom he makes a loss,check archives.
HKG SK 09:39 GMT September 9, 2004
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Just square 1/2 of my position on short CHf this morning for 32 pips. Wait for 1.2595 to short again and will wait for a little bit longer this time looking for 1.2800 by end of Friday.
slv sam 09:38 GMT September 9, 2004
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poor yen bulls are forced to get out of their positions imho..$/y might reach 110.20 level before behaving logically!!GT
Gold Coast martin 09:36 GMT September 9, 2004
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Singapore 09:29 GMT September 9, 2004
Time frames is an imperfection in every system but all systems need to commit to one...until the perfect black box is found timeframes have to have flexibility as a result of human logic...g/t
lisbon bb 09:36 GMT September 9, 2004
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some friends speak without any supportive ground no technical or fundemental view .Just prediction and hopes.
look:
GER ad 09:26 GMT September 9, 2004
EUR/USD short,
Out at cost
PAR 09:23 GMT September 9, 2004
Even or maybe especially if you are unemployed inflation is a problem and since almost 5 million Germans are unemployed...
slv sam 09:23 GMT September 9, 2004
1.2150/60 is the max.retarcement for euro imho! then a new assault on 1.2230 and again to 1.2360..euro strong on all crosses...this tells us something!GT
London 09:33 GMT September 9, 2004
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The WSJ's Fed watcher [GREG IP] penned an opinion piece on the web late yesterday suggesting the FOMC could pause in the rate hiking cycle in either Nov or Dec. He cited no official sources for this view and stuck with the consensus view of a 25bp hike on Sept 21st, though he took from Greenspan's text that a breather could be on the cards late in the year. This was mainly based on Greenspan's positive outlook for continued benign inflation, with the mixed Beige Book that followed the Fed chair setting out a less than goldilocks scenario of weaker retail sales and patchy jobs growth. US Treasury yields fell sharply towards the end of NY play yesterday, with the 10yr down below the rate prevailing ahead of the Aug payrolls data last friday of 4.19%. This is bearish for the Dollar going forward if yields continues to undermine yield based demand for Dollars. The 10yr debt auction today will be eyed amid weak indirect bidding yesterday in the 5yr,
Singapore 09:29 GMT September 9, 2004
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Gold Coast martin 09:17 GMT September 9, 2004
Yeah & you said short at 1.2080 yesterday too
need to work on timing young man.
GER ad 09:26 GMT September 9, 2004
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EUR/USD short,
Out at cost
PAR 09:23 GMT September 9, 2004
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Even or maybe especially if you are unemployed inflation is a problem and since almost 5 million Germans are unemployed...
slv sam 09:23 GMT September 9, 2004
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1.2150/60 is the max.retarcement for euro imho! then a new assault on 1.2230 and again to 1.2360..euro strong on all crosses...this tells us something!GT
Ca LA 09:22 GMT September 9, 2004
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GOES B747 09:19 GMT September 9, 2004
Ca LA 09:17 GMT September 9, 2004
E/$ is on great short
you are wrong; it is a very great short !!!
gt
Meaning same its is very good short
Gen dk 09:19 GMT September 9, 2004
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GOES B747 09:19 GMT September 9, 2004
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Ca LA 09:17 GMT September 9, 2004
E/$ is on great short
you are wrong; it is a very great short !!!
gt
Ca LA 09:17 GMT September 9, 2004
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E/$ is on great short
Gold Coast martin 09:17 GMT September 9, 2004
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Todays and tommorows trading theme is simple:what the market has taken ,the market will give back. and more...and the most logical way is to short euro.......a type of a "money back trade"...g/t
GOES B747 09:17 GMT September 9, 2004
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PAR and the rest,
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=6181106
gt
GOES B747 09:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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PAR 09:13 GMT September 9, 2004
20% of Germans would like to have the Berlin wall back !!!
it says everything, right?
gt
PAR 09:13 GMT September 9, 2004
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Biggest worry of Germans is increase of cost of living. Inflation angst has been extremely high recently according to study by German insurer. ECB has been missing real day to day inflation targets.
GOES B747 09:08 GMT September 9, 2004
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imo & fwiw regarding EUR/USD: 1.2105-1.2130 is EUR bulls trap
gt
GOES B747 09:06 GMT September 9, 2004
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good morning,
USD/JPY: when Mr. surplus is there for Mr. deficit...USD bulls will smile :-)
EUR/USD shorters will enjoy from the stand of MOF...
Please note that USD/JPY will move towards 105/- as soon USD strength will get momentum.
gt
New-York 08:49 GMT September 9, 2004
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London 08:47 GMT September 9, 2004
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Several explosions echoed across the Iraqi capital Thursday as puffs of smoke rose above the heavily fortified Green Zone, witnesses said. The so-called Green Zone houses Iraqi government offices and the U.S. Embassy in a huge area along the banks of the Tigris River.
London 08:32 GMT September 9, 2004
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UK ECON: July Trade Deficit GBP 5.159bn, Bigger-Than-Expected
Gen dk 08:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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PAR 08:13 GMT September 9, 2004
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Expect some improvement in UK trade data for july. But as US UK is struggling with twin deficits and needs artificially high interest rates to support its currency. Too high interest rates which will put UK economy into recession.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 08:05 GMT September 9, 2004
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usd/chf.will get 1.2653 soon. potential to 1.2690-97 (top).
eur/usd potential to 1.2070-88 again.
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 08:01 GMT September 9, 2004
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also gbp/usd
down to 1.7812 or 1.7777 (nice number)..bottom target today.
Budapest Daniel 08:00 GMT September 9, 2004
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Raden, I hope you're right. I've put a sell order at 1.2183 yesterday evening but nearly nothing since then :)
NYC pws 08:00 GMT September 9, 2004
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H&S pattern in cable..was shorting rallies around 7875 looking for a break of pattern...first fib level looks like 7830 from todays Greenspan move..if we test and break this we should see the lower 78 levels, as the BOE is expected to stay on hold today...and US jobless claims expected to provide some USD stregnth..personally i think its a bit toppy up here...gt
Las Vegas NV 07:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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Did anyone predict the EUR/USD was going to jump 100 pips after Greenspun made those comments about the US economy? Did anyone see that coming?
The euro jumped 1.7 cents to $1.2192 after Greenspan’s speech recognized that “Consumer spending slowed materially, and employment gains moderated notably”, departing from the mainly upbeat remarks made in previous testimonies. Although Greenspan did say the “expansion has regained some traction”, which is sufficient to preserve chances of a September rate hike, the admission of economic weakness at the top of the speech was enough to hurt the dollar.
Did anyone's system see that coming? Did anyone make some money?
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 07:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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hello everybody,
eur/usd after catch 1.2208 (top) ideally get 1.2144 soon.
be carefull., but if show you 1.2140 mean will get 1.2125 or 1.2105 (bottom).
let'see...
SLC TJ 07:55 GMT September 9, 2004
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Sydney 07:45 - Yes, I think these could qualify as perilous times. Violence breeds violence. But good men also have to defend their homes and countries against belligerent terrorists.
Do you expect cable to get down to 1.7830 and below? TIA
Gibraltar PW 07:50 GMT September 9, 2004
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I think cble will be an excellent buy around 1.7800/10 which is the 50 perct retracement of yesterdays rally (1.7905/1.7713). Another rally of equal distance from this buy zone ard 1.78 would target the 38.2 of 1.8466/1.7706 at 1.7796. All IMHO.
Sydney 07:46 GMT September 9, 2004
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weather should read whether
Sydney 07:45 GMT September 9, 2004
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Wonder weather all these EarthQuakes Floods Hurricanes etc have got something todo with the human violence we are seeing in the past few years seems the whole planet is in turmoil in one way or another ..
Disneyland WDB 07:39 GMT September 9, 2004
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Thanks Budapest seeya
Ldn 07:38 GMT September 9, 2004
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van Gecko many thanks for that much appreciated
Budapest 07:34 GMT September 9, 2004
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Disneyland WDB very brave movement. :)
van Gecko 07:33 GMT September 9, 2004
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Ldn 07:10..
"..13:03 GMT September 2, 2004
levels from here down to Aud .6950 & Nzd .6450 if seen are good buys for pikers & positional players.. these rare inter-market abberations induced levels may not be seen again after this week.."
no change in view.. Nzd may had said good bye to .6450, but Aud are still at good buy levels..
in particular, selling EUR/AUD up here may be a faster way to get more pips into the fx piggybank while Euro wait for the Kangaroo to do its catch up hops..fwiw..
Disneyland WDB 07:32 GMT September 9, 2004
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e/$ long 1.2295 as Limit and 1.2170 as STOP
Syd 07:28 GMT September 9, 2004
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Indonesia bombing unlikely to change long-term view on economy as foreign investors have come to expect violence, much like IRA action in UK in 1980-90s, Knee-jerk market selling in stocks and rupiah unlikely to last long .
Centennial Group business consultancy.
Babuyan Isl MGW 07:25 GMT September 9, 2004
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effect of BOE decision particularly on cable...
Babuyan Isl MGW 07:21 GMT September 9, 2004
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what would be the effect on USD if UK will hold its interest rates later? need your comments please. ty
Dammam A 07:16 GMT September 9, 2004
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EUR/USD ...... didn't u heard Budapest Daniel ?!!!
Go down to 2150 plsss.
Disneyland WDB 07:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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Will e/$ touch the .2300
Sydney 07:14 GMT September 9, 2004
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British Airways Completes Qantas Stake Sale
Ldn 07:10 GMT September 9, 2004
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van Gecko can you give your view on AUd thnks
London 07:09 GMT September 9, 2004
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UK rate decision tops the event list at 1100 GMT and Aug's Inflation Report sent the message that the MPC can remain in wait-and-see mode with rates expected on hold at 4.75%
van Gecko 07:07 GMT September 9, 2004
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the Dollar is saying "Sayonara summer, I am taking another Siesta in September.."
next stop for the Dollar is down @ 87 with the immenient break of Dollar Index 88.80..
Cheerios..
Budapest Daniel 07:02 GMT September 9, 2004
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EUR/$ please goooo down! :)
Disneyland WDB 06:56 GMT September 9, 2004
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yes
Dammam A 06:53 GMT September 9, 2004
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Hi Disneyland WDB
May I PM you;too?
Many thanks
Disneyland WDB 06:42 GMT September 9, 2004
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To Babuyan...
pm me throught messenger man, I can help u
Disneyland WDB 06:42 GMT September 9, 2004
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To Babuyan...
pm me throught messenger man, I can help u
Disneyland WDB 06:38 GMT September 9, 2004
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Not for free man, it will cost you 1 million $...:))
Of course for free, I haven't payed a dime for it...
Babuyan Isl MGW 06:30 GMT September 9, 2004
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Disneyland WDB 06:20 GMT September 9, 2004
Are you giving it for free? i also need an ebook on FX. im an intermediate trader.
LAX-LGB SNP 06:29 GMT September 9, 2004
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ca la
suggest you browse through GV's bookstore
Disneyland WDB 06:28 GMT September 9, 2004
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http://www.forex-training.com/
this should be enough for the beggining.
They have good resources, as I saw...
If u want more my Yahoo messenger Id is ovidiu2310ro
contact me, I woldn't post my email adress here coz of the spam
Ca LA 06:26 GMT September 9, 2004
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dEARS
Disneyland WDB 06:20 GMT September 9, 2004
I THINK I NEED E BOOK FOR STUDY FOREX COZ I M BIGGNEAR
NOT EXPERT
LAX-LGB SNP 06:16 GMT September 9, 2004
DEAR ANY E BOOK THAT HELP ME IN fX TRADING
tHANKS BOTH anD gt
Disneyland WDB 06:20 GMT September 9, 2004
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About eBook on Forex, I have a few courses, I could send you some, but you need to tell me what level you are
LAX-LGB SNP 06:16 GMT September 9, 2004
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CA La
whats the title of the E-book ?
houston ken 06:08 GMT September 9, 2004
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4 hours chart is finally alive in fx i think the volumes are back
Gold Coast martin 06:04 GMT September 9, 2004
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wisconsin tim 05:50 GMT September 9, 2004
There is good demand for good technicians in major institutions...good technicals justify the institutions forex bias to its clients....however institutions also seek outside advice from particular individuals in order to form their own internal forex policy which may be different from the one they give out to clients..a type of hedging if you like....what i was trying to tell you was that should you become sucesful on your own rite you will be sought by such banks to provide them with advice for their internal forex policy....g/t
Dammam A 05:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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Hi all
Anny comments about cable for the time being?
(Went short from 1.7869)
Thank you & GL
Ca LA 05:56 GMT September 9, 2004
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ANy one can please help me i need E-book for fx trading ?
any one know wher i can get it?
Singapore Sfx 05:53 GMT September 9, 2004
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tim , If its been an obsession with you, then thats all you really need, in my opinion. After that its all about your doggedness / determination to get a job being rewarded by some luck. Like with all things.
Good luck.
wisconsin tim 05:51 GMT September 9, 2004
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ICT ML 05:28 GMT September 9, 2004
thanks will ask "the Man" for your email
wisconsin tim 05:50 GMT September 9, 2004
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thanks for the comments (Gold Coast, that is exacly how I made a successful computer programming consultancy firm but does the same "roadmap" apply to investments, I guess is what I'm asking) ... this (stocks/options initially and later forex ... who knows why) has been an obsession for me since I was first introduced to options 10 years ago.
A friend of mine just went out with his brother to create their own financial planning and investment business and he is constantly in contact with me ... "wait for a few months after Buffet kicks the bucket and buy berkshire" ... on and on (btw I can't complain they have handled my wife's TSA masterfully)
But, coming from a purely technical point of view, is there much call for a "technician" in the trading reportoire of major institutions.
HKG SK 05:48 GMT September 9, 2004
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Trade deficit figure will be due out tomorrow. Every time (10 out of 9) this figure pointed a large deficit and increasing. When this happpen US$ usually dropped like hot bricks. Then everyone turn their eyes to the large decifit again for a few days.
Just like to ask anyone in this forum if we get a beeter decifit figure tomorrow, will US$ go up this time??? What is everyone expecations of this figure???
wisconsin tim 05:37 GMT September 9, 2004
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Provo -> thanks I guess you have to have a different level of service ... which is understandable
Gold Coast martin 05:36 GMT September 9, 2004
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wisconsin tim 05:24 GMT September 9, 2004
Dont be obsessed about getting work in institution....working for bank or large fx fund you just become a robot of policy with no potential to develop your own style or make an impression...instead keep developing your system ..if you are succesful with your system you will not need to work for someone else...become sucesful on your own will make an impression on your peers and can lead to a lot of consultancy work not just for large net worth individuals but actual banking institutions....outsourcing is the word these days...take this advice...hard work initially but it sure has lots of rewards with flexibility.....it sure works!..good luck with your endeavours....
quito_ecuador_valdez 05:34 GMT September 9, 2004
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Wisconsin tim// Likely you would have to work within a bank for years first, have the director(S) know you well to judge your personality to be considered. FX rooms are sort of political yet have folks who have an aptitude for trading (obviously). If you have X years of experience and have kept meticulous provable records of your trades and if your trades are within conservative parameters possibly a money management firm would be the place to go. Otherwise, just trade and make more money than they could ever pay you!
HKG SK 05:34 GMT September 9, 2004
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** US$ price movement **
Yesterday
Chf at 1.2730,novice traders would have brought Chf at this price but got stopped at 1.2768.
Then price started to turn north again and ended the day at 1.2600
A typical example of Instituational traders squeezed out the novice traders.
SYD 05:31 GMT September 9, 2004
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Weak Japanese Data Push Dollar, Euro Higher
Core machinery orders placed by Japanese companies fell a worse-than-expected 11.3% in July from the previous month, government data showed, rekindling concerns that slowing global growth and falling household spending may weigh on the country's recovery.
ICT ML 05:28 GMT September 9, 2004
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wisconsin tim 05:24 GMT September 9, 2004
email me about that;-> go through Jay and all that jazz.
wisconsin tim 05:28 GMT September 9, 2004
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Babuyan Isl MGW 05:24 GMT September 9, 2004
jeez you guys expect him to be up 24/7/365
=D
anyhow ... I am short from 7876 with stops above y'd high tp below 7600
quito_ecuador_valdez 05:25 GMT September 9, 2004
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€/$ dipping..
Babuyan Isl MGW 05:24 GMT September 9, 2004
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Raden Mas, if you're here. what is your view on cable now? thanks.
wisconsin tim 05:24 GMT September 9, 2004
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well this might be more directed to -------------> forum
(if you haven't signed up for GVI I would highly suggest it. It has paid for itself ... now I just have to figure out how to post questions)
Anyhow, if one wanted to work in this field what is the normal path (educational or other) to take to land a decent job. Just wondering, I know my current trading style would never fit into a banks ideology ...
thanks in advance,
tim
HKG SK 05:23 GMT September 9, 2004
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Greenspan's speech last night really did not warranted such a drop in th US$. This reaction of the $ decline should short-lived. I have just sold Euro and bought US/Chf at 1.2603 looking for 1.2800 by weekend.
GT
Gold Coast martin 05:21 GMT September 9, 2004
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With current euro retracement ahead into the european session expect euro to see levels of 12120 with further downward bias developing into the ny session...while AUD despite terrorist blast has seen majors like BEAR STEARNS selling agressively....with euro retraction look for aussie to rediscover 6889 levels by end of euro session with further downward bias developing....g/t
quito_ecuador_valdez 05:19 GMT September 9, 2004
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Raden Mas, you prove my point. Islamics are normal religious people..I know some. It is fanatic terrorist killer addicts who happen to hail to Islam (Islam doesn't hail to them) who cause the fracus. In no way would people on this forum lift an eyebrow to you or hate you for what idiots completely apart from you and your religion do, same as criminals in your jails from the USA on drug charges represent the entire US population. Please all, let's pat Raden on the back and wish him well. Thanks for your noble efforts to help make good what others would try to defeat. GL GT.
wisconsin tim 05:15 GMT September 9, 2004
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well to all fans of my levels/website out there (i know it's not the majority of you =D ) ... we just started Wednesday night pool leagues so updates won't be available till Thursday ... gt's all ... let the force be with you
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 05:12 GMT September 9, 2004
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For all people here. we apologie about terorist attack(bombing).
Especially for Australian. in our mind all people are friend, not killed each by self. I hate the terorist who always disturb in my country or other place in this world.
...once we are so apologiies and sorry for Australian Embassy in Jakarta or their familly.
with this post, we are represent for all FX bussines peoples in Indonesia.
we are in Bandung...185 km from Jakarta.
regards,
Yustin Andi Prasojo (raden mas)
Edco Avirin (mr.co'z)
quito_ecuador_valdez 05:11 GMT September 9, 2004
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If you can take out JFK with two out of 4 shots from opposing directions, then take out the patsy (Lee Harvey Oswald) IN A POLICE STATION FULL OF POLICEMEN so he'll never testify he was accepting checks from the CIA (true..cancelled checks to prove it), shoot Martin Luther King w/one shot, shoot Pres. Regan in the chest and Brady in the head with him, take out Sadat, why can't they simply put a .308 (7.62mm) sniper rifle's slug at 1000 meters clean through the temples of Osama Bin Ladin on the way to the market? If they can read a newspaper headline from orbit and undermine the president of Chile with the currency besides, and install Pinochet, they can catch Bin Ladin. Why haven't they?
Sydney 05:01 GMT September 9, 2004
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Australia has issued a travel warning against Australians going to Indonesia after a blast occurred just opposite the Australian embassy this morning in Jakarta,the Foreign Affairs Dept added that it had received reports "terrorists" in the region were planning attacks against a range of targets in the Area
Indonesia-Solo Raden Mas 05:00 GMT September 9, 2004
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hallo.
KL KL 03:40 GMT September 9, 2004
yes. there is bomb. high explosive at Gracia Tower Kuningan Jakarta (near Australia Embassy). first report is 3 dead, but seem more 3 dead.
I am fine.
This is "bad habit" in my country near election...bad..bad.. :-(
I am bussy today.
Syd 04:55 GMT September 9, 2004
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Bounces Off Lows On AUD/JPY Buying
quito_ecuador_valdez 04:46 GMT September 9, 2004
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What they want Sydney plainly is to kill. A self serving lust for blood. 4 terrorists kidnap 12 people and kill them. Those 4 men bring all hades and pee down on an entire set of countries, millions of victims in a sence, not just 12. Those four men comprise a millionth of the population, are almost impossible to find yet they involve whole groups of countries in a bloodbath just so they can get off on killing 12 people. Bin Ladin..one man. One man has brought the entire Islamic peoples collectively into war, directly and indirectly, with the aid of actually a handfull comparitively speaking other crazy fanatic nutsy freaky people. Amazing. Freeking amazing. Hitler. No one liked him, not even the krauts, Dad was in intel towards the end..few Germans liked Hitler if any. All were simply afraid of him and his henchmen once he turned into a Mr. Hyde wolf from Dr. Jekyl. But it was too late..he murdered millions, Jews and otherwise, put an entire world into war just for one man's lust for blood and power. Why have a war, just remove the stench and take out the tyrant!
Sydney 04:34 GMT September 9, 2004
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I mean hit the nail right on the head I cant think straight
Sydney 04:33 GMT September 9, 2004
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quito_ecuador_valdez excellent expanation and probably hit it right on the nail there. quite honest I cant get my head round what they want either
quito_ecuador_valdez 04:29 GMT September 9, 2004
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Terrorists don't even have to have a cause, they just make one up..they demand outrageous things because they don't want negotiation, they want to kill. Ultimately they are suicidal..the ultimate big thrill. They are sick sadists who "say" they are Islamic and are no more followers of true Islamic doctrine than so called Christians (fanatic ones) who kill their family members because "Jesus told me to". It's the same fanatic insanity. You can NOT negotiate with nor please terrists, they love to torture the mind and kill...hence the Frenchmen still being held from a country that resisted the Iraq war from the get go and the dozen Nepalese (harmless country) who died recently trying to help Iraq! Logic does not = terrorism. Terrorism = sadistic insanity.
Sydney 04:17 GMT September 9, 2004
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quito_ecuador_valdez that is true - feel the only way achieve peace is for all the leaders of the World to Unit against terror because look at the French who didnt want ot be involved still have their people kidnapped .
CA Clouy 04:08 GMT September 9, 2004
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Hello. was away for a week. hope everybody had profitable time. (is it possible? :-)
Dallas GEP 03:58 GMT September 9
GEP, it seemed u'r long $ now. Any thought on eur/usd? I got 1.2234 resist//1.2165 support range, based upon my new learned calculation. TIA.
GL & GT
quito_ecuador_valdez 04:07 GMT September 9, 2004
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Syd//Don't know if things are heating up in the terrorist dept in the sence that the USA has captured a fair amount of them in the USA itself and uncovered lately a lot of useful data concerning active Al Q cells within USA + Canada. High Islamic clerics (not dog face..high ones) and Ayatollahs (spelling) are now even denouncing terrorism and beheadings as it is against Islamic doctrine. Russia has it's own long time terrorists who are contra Moscow, they do happen to be Islamic Chechans. But they've always had that, now it comes out. You don't hear about the hundreds of bombings, car bombings, shootings etc. since Pravda & co. don't let that out...bad for tourism, entry into EZ. Hopefully Putin will not buck the UN but he may Wyatt Earp this. All I can say is humanity hasn't changed since we were monkey men.
Sydney 04:03 GMT September 9, 2004
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Jakarta Shrs Down 1.8% But Off Lows
Provo John 04:02 GMT September 9, 2004
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-- DJ 4 Injured; Severed Leg Seen At Jakarta Blast Site -2- --
Four cars and the high metal fence surrounding the Australian embassy were
damaged. The windows of surrounding buildings were smashed.
Police were not immediately available for comment.
Sydney 04:01 GMT September 9, 2004
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Australia Govt Spokesman: No Injuries
Ldn 04:00 GMT September 9, 2004
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Presidential elections Sept. 20 said to be reason in Indoneasea
brisbane sunstate 04:00 GMT September 9, 2004
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JAKARTA : A strong blast was heard in central Jakarta Thursday believed to have originated from an office building near the Australian embassy, police said Thursday.
The cause of the blast, which occurred about 10:30 am (0330 GMT), was not immediately known.
According to a radio report, the fence of the Australian Embassy was destroyed in the blast. - CNA
MCN International Pte Ltd
Dallas GEP 03:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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took +20 pips on gbp/jpy shorts, USD/JPY will begin to long and so then will gbp/jpy IMO
Sydney 03:55 GMT September 9, 2004
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quito_ecuador_valdez thanks and all the best
melbourne farmacia 03:55 GMT September 9, 2004
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KL KL - If that's correct.. would expect Aussie to fall some.... (as in Merritt hotel bombing last year....) fwiw
quito_ecuador_valdez 03:50 GMT September 9, 2004
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Syd// point taken, agreed. Peace bro. Glad yer for the good guys. I fought along side Aussies, dam fine soldiers, tough, full of wit & humor, and like me, love their beer. I've got no news on Jakarta...sky, nor Reuters nor Fox popped anything yet.
Sydney 03:47 GMT September 9, 2004
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quito_ecuador_valdez not sure if anyone else gets the feeling things seem to be hotting up in the terrorist department
Ina co'z 03:47 GMT September 9, 2004
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MORNING FRIENDS...!....:-))
Sydney 03:45 GMT September 9, 2004
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quito_ecuador_valdez seriously no worries its not the best subject to bring up on here always a bit touchy
KL KL 03:40 GMT September 9, 2004
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Possible terror bomb attack in Jakarta Indonesia....Raden or anyone from there please confirm!!
quito_ecuador_valdez 03:39 GMT September 9, 2004
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Syd// See my post in help forum please...you mistook my intentions 180 degrees..sorry 4 my inability to communicate mate. My nephew just joined US Army like his 2 gradfathers, just out of basic, private E-2. Me: Vietnam 65-68 two tours, sgt advisor to RF PF Vietnamese militia in night ops, "special tactics" Qui Nhon, Pleiku. My Pop: Lt. Col retired WWII Germany, France, tanks..bronze star. OK? And for thrills I trade.
Sydney 03:32 GMT September 9, 2004
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AUS Consumers" inflation expectations for the next 12 mths rose to a five-mth high in Sept. According to the latest survey released by the Melbourne Insitute, consumers believe prices will probably rise 4.5% in the next 12ths, up from 4.3% in Aug's survey. Wage expectations were also on the rose with the mean expected annual hourly wage change for all occupations up 0.6% to 3.4% in the survey,
)toronto( Dr Unken Kat 03:31 GMT September 9, 2004
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QC Swap 03:08 GMT September 9, 2004
Still holding short Eur/Usd.
soon youre get banged pretty badly
)toronto( Dr Unken Kat 03:27 GMT September 9, 2004
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hey do u know that close to 400 defectors from the usa army asked for the asylum in Gaynada ?
they dont say that louldly i guess in the US
QC Swap 03:08 GMT September 9, 2004
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Still holding short Eur/Usd.
Syd 03:05 GMT September 9, 2004
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Inflation expectations rise
September 9, 2004 SMH
Strong June quarter national accounts data and healthy consumer confidence pushed inflation expectations up in September, after a fall in the previous month, the Melbourne Institute said.
September 4.5 per cent,
The median of inflation expectations typically exceeds the inflation rate by 2.0 per cent.
"The proportion of respondents who believed that prices would actually fall or stay the same rose in the latest month, and was slightly higher than the average of the previous six months," the Institute said.
The rise in expectations this month occurred alongside ongoing evidence in recent weeks of strength in the economy, in particular as represented by the June quarter National Accounts.Australian real gross domestic product (GDP) rose by a seasonally adjusted 0.6 per cent in the June quarter, the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) reported last week.Over the year to June, GDP rose 4.1 per cent.
In addition, the Australian dollar remains around ten per cent below its recent peak in February 2004, and consumer confidence measures remain strong the institute said.
The median inflation rate expected by managers and professionals this month was 4.5 per cent.
The mean expected annual hourly wage change for all occupations rose by 0.6 percentage points to 3.4 per cent in September The paraprofessionals and tradespersons group recorded the biggest rise in September, rising 6.3 percentage points, followed by the plant and machine operators group (up 0.5) and managers and professionals group (up 0.1).
SanFrancisco tg 02:56 GMT September 9, 2004
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Good night.
Sydney 02:56 GMT September 9, 2004
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quito_ecuador_valdez wasnt trying to offend , I have three sons 22-24 and just imagine the loss they are just old enough to shave
quito_ecuador_valdez 02:51 GMT September 9, 2004
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I know all that. 1. Am VERY sorry 1k US soldiers KIA (I was one once), made no inference to them, have ultimate respect too. Relax hot head. 2. I know Islam is not = war but I said that. Can you people just read? Jeez. Gone...bye. Beat up someone else.
Ldn 02:49 GMT September 9, 2004
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Eurodollar futures up post-Greenspan talk subsides Fed to hike rates 25 bps at each of next 3 meetings, year-end rate of 2% seen. Greenspan's comments on high cost of oil a bit surprising with Fed chief unsure about direction of oil costs
SanFrancisco tg 02:49 GMT September 9, 2004
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Valdez - I didnt know you sell swamp land too.
Dammam A 02:48 GMT September 9, 2004
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Hi all ...
Excuse me JAY
Hi quito_ecuador_valdez
I just want to point out a point: there's no relation between Islam & terrorism.Islam's a relegion which invite to peace.
Best wishes for all
Dallas GEP 02:48 GMT September 9, 2004
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Well Ok. let's see. I have gbp/jpy shorts from 195.43, usd/cad longs from 1.2902, usd/jpy longs. Order to sell AUSSIE @ 6980 (no chance now probably)
Sydney 02:45 GMT September 9, 2004
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quito_ecuador_valdez your touching on a very delicate subject there, after 1.000 US young men and women have died trying to aid a country most have never heard of never mind visited.
quito_ecuador_valdez 02:37 GMT September 9, 2004
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SanFran tg// Yep. But remember, Islamics do not = Islamic terrorists. Koran does not = wanton killing nor does Bible. Terrorist nuts (one 100th of 1%) are quite apart from mainstream. Islamic countries should police their turf before their turf begins to glow in the dark.
Have no trades going..sidelined, chart will surprize us. Funny, tensions in FX = tensions in forum. Geez guys, chill. If I cannon balled EVERY hair brained post here (300 pip-ized spread range predictions etc.) I'd be canned for spam. FX forum is to see what the big shots do anyway & if you poke their chops then they won't post & we'll be reduced to Yahoo chat. Keep postin' pals..don't quit, don't be hurt by 3rd Martini red-eyed witless wonders.
LAX-LGB SNP 02:36 GMT September 9, 2004
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Gold above 398.31/399 has potential for higher - same for £/CHF above 2.2507
expecting €/£ to break higher past current daily bull flag as long it stays above 0.6815
failed bear flags on £/$ and AUD$ daily
Sydney 02:34 GMT September 9, 2004
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SanFrancisco tg unbelievable really suppose if everyone had got behind the US in the beginning may have managed to contain it by now France and Germany in particular
Brisbane 02:33 GMT September 9, 2004
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Could someone enlighten regarding the strength of the NewZealand Economy ?? the cause and how they are alb to sustain such rate hike with more suppose to be in the pipeline. Talk that inflationary pressures to intensify in late 2005, when the CPI is projected to reach 3.25% - above the bank's targeted band. cheers
SanFrancisco tg 02:29 GMT September 9, 2004
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Sydney, I'd say its pretty safe to say they collectively have been for a while. Not intelligent. The forex implications are massive going forward. Ironically, this could lead to agressive price behavior especially when/where oil issues are tangibly impacted. The only diluting factor would be damage to the global financial infastructure such as on/after 911. In this case since there is preparation, I doubt the dilution in liquidity occurs. More agressive selling of some pairs upon any significant successes for the terror side, but short lived.
Sydney 02:25 GMT September 9, 2004
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SanFrancisco tg not sure where i saw it but that Muslim terrorist trying to force war
SanFrancisco tg 02:19 GMT September 9, 2004
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Valdez - Bottom line ... bad decision by islamic leaders, responsibility lay there.
quito_ecuador_valdez 02:15 GMT September 9, 2004
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Ratha than to pee off anywun with cut 'n paste hyar I put today's 'n Fraday's best calender ah cud find (Clinton accent) on the HAILP For'em.
London 02:12 GMT September 9, 2004
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Times poll shows voters cutting back on spending and borrowing
Feel-good factor fades as Britain tightens beltTHE economy’s “feel good” factor is fading well before a possible general election next year as consumers cut back on spending and borrowing after the recent interest rates rises.
quito_ecuador_valdez 02:10 GMT September 9, 2004
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London 01:05 GMT September 9, 2004
Russia targets top Chechen rebels
The Russian army's Chief of Staff, General Yuri Baluevsky, said Moscow planned to launch pre-emptive strikes on terrorist bases "in any region of the world".
Shootin' Putin's putin' whup arse to work but words are easy...I gotta see this. Blazing saddles. Cowboy Bush lent his Texas cowboy hat and pearl handled Colts to "Shootin' Putin". Armageddon begins. Show me a caballero with pink pearl pistol grips and I'll show you a "gay caballero". This world is too much, glad I live in a banana republic few heard of. Moscow/Washington V.S. "The World"..Round 1. China, India, Pakistan, N. Korea, France, England, Israel, Germany..wanna join in? Let's give all nuclear powers a Nagisaki shot here just as long as it's in someone else's dessert, right? Gawd. Survival kits sold here.
Cairns cy 02:02 GMT September 9, 2004
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The weaker
than expected data is another in a series of mixed to slightly worse than
expected numbers and throws a bit more doubt on whether or not the RBA needs to
hike rates before the end of this year. The AUD/USD trades 0.6952/57
SYD 01:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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Fall in Australia jobs in August "very peculiar" given anecdotal evidence had been pointing to strong result over next few months, says Commonwealth Bank senior economist Michael Workman. While expected large rise failed to emerge this month, market shouldn't pay too much attention to on-month moves in series given it's very volatile. Overall trend in jobs market numbers still quite strong, so there's still solid case for another RBA rate rise, he says
rts
LA fxnew 01:41 GMT September 9, 2004
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anybody can share view on usd/jpy pls
Thanks
nyc jk 01:38 GMT September 9, 2004
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TJ - LMAO. keep up the comedy mate.
Singapore Sfx 01:34 GMT September 9, 2004
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ken
From GVI: Singapore Sfx 01:32 GMT September 9, 2004
aud employment fell 6.6k agst consensus exp +22.5k.
unemploymt rate +5.7 % - agst consensus 5.6%
melbourne farmacia 01:34 GMT September 9, 2004
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KL KL 01:19 GMT September 9, 2004
Just running with the flow last few days... no real bias until reversal conditions apply.... buying into 1.7800/32 looks ok if indicators suggest etc.. GT
houston ken 01:33 GMT September 9, 2004
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what happened to aussi?? anybody?
GA TJ 01:33 GMT September 9, 2004
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nyc jk 01:23 GMT September 9, 2004
A Bone Head who fluncked a Jr College Stat Class would have more knowledge than that post. Sorry but that info was lower than elementary. I was expecting something that would enlighten my Statistical Knowledge.
GA TJ 01:28 GMT September 9, 2004
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FWIW, Just took a short on JPYUSD @109.22. Not going to give this dog much of a leash.
Disclaimer for NYC JK.
I may close position without notice. I may decide to reverse without notice. If you trade of my post then you deserve to stuck in NYC. I may decide to double up an upside down position without notice. Please honor the Mason Dixon.
SanFrancisco tg 01:25 GMT September 9, 2004
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Back in a bit.
SanFrancisco tg 01:24 GMT September 9, 2004
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"from" the 20's
nyc jk 01:23 GMT September 9, 2004
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tg - sure , I will get your email and be in touch.
tj - frankly, a comment like that from you comes as no surprise. you asked me a few weeks ago a question about performance evaluation and I told you I would answer on the help forum. I posted a detailed response to your question and I heard absolutely nothing from you. that pretty much sums up what you add to this forum.
Calabash TarHeel 01:21 GMT September 9, 2004
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GA TJ 01:13 GMT September 9, 2004
Always nice to know there is another good ole boy in the house.
SanFrancisco tg 01:20 GMT September 9, 2004
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GEP - I already took the money on short euryen's in the 20's. Not looking for much in asia for now and see probes limited to around 132.90 for a bit.
KL KL 01:19 GMT September 9, 2004
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Frankly I wont be touching yen pairs until tomorrow or later today. Waiting for the setup to short it against other currency. I am flat now ...waiting waiting ..
Farmacia are you still buying on dips gbpusd?? Looks like 1.76-1.77 is very strong support...Maybe 1.77 could be broken today.
BTW GEP what are your possie now. TIA
SanFrancisco tg 01:16 GMT September 9, 2004
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ah ok jk. If you like get my email though, I do a weekly projection for a fund that has not missed in some time, and can do it monthly if that is your style. Would be nice to talk with some more skill now and then.
GA TJ 01:13 GMT September 9, 2004
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nyc jk 01:07 GMT September 9, 2004
Jay - I guess pointing out b.s. that is posted here just causes problems. don't worry, I soon won't post here anymore.
Chistmas in September? Who'da thunk it.
Cairo Amgad 01:12 GMT September 9, 2004
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Modified Entry levels for my positions are
BUY EUR/JPY 132.79;
BUY GBP/JPY 195.13;
other positions entry did not changed. S/L -100pip, this is a day trading not more than one day. Closed at end of day.
GL GT
Cairo Amgad 01:12 GMT September 9, 2004
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Modified Entry levels for my positions are
BUY EUR/JPY 132.79;
BUY GBP/JPY 195.13;
other positions entry did not changed. S/L -100pip, this is a day trading not more than one day. Closed at end of day.
GL GT
Calabash TarHeel 01:10 GMT September 9, 2004
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Dallas GEP 00:31 GMT September 9, 2004
Truthfully, looks as if ab's invisible hand is working yen pairs across the board.
nyc jk 01:07 GMT September 9, 2004
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farmacia - lol
Raven - thanks for the advice!
tg - was just joking mate
Calabash TarHeel 00:41 GMT September 9, 2004
Frankly I have no interest in the majority of the the copy and paste info posted here.
yeah great Tarheel, much better to have hindsight trades posted here I agree.
Jay - I guess pointing out b.s. that is posted here just causes problems. don't worry, I soon won't post here anymore.
London 01:06 GMT September 9, 2004
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hk ab certainly not good the the GBP/USD
London 01:05 GMT September 9, 2004
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Russia targets top Chechen rebels
The Russian army's Chief of Staff, General Yuri Baluevsky, said Moscow planned to launch pre-emptive strikes on terrorist bases "in any region of the world". A spokesman for Mr Maskhadov, Ahmed Zakayev, described the threat as a "disturbing signal for civilised countries" and said it set a dangerous precedent. "It is a warning to other European countries that Russia may come and carry out an assassination on your soil at any moment," he said.
BBC.co.uk
Could be more threatening than IRAQ.
SD Devi 01:04 GMT September 9, 2004
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Global-View,
Never mind, I looked up GVI
SD Devi 00:58 GMT September 9, 2004
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Global-View,
What is GVI ?
TIA
London 00:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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Aud reached 6880 double bottom on intraday charts with daily turning positive
SanFrancisco tg 00:57 GMT September 9, 2004
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jk - i already would have, but i am not a position trader anyway. what is your goal and your typical holding time?
Gen dk 00:56 GMT September 9, 2004
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melbourne farmacia 00:51 GMT September 9, 2004
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nyc jk 00:45 GMT September 9, 2004
Come on jk.... euro high was 1.2927 not 30 !!! LOL
Calabash TarHeel 00:49 GMT September 9, 2004
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Global-View 00:43 GMT September 9, 2004
Point taken.
Thanks
Va Raven 00:49 GMT September 9, 2004
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Take half out, JK, and leave the other half for 1.19ish......Good luck!
Cairo Amgad 00:46 GMT September 9, 2004
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Thank you GV:
Entry levels for my positions are
BUY USD/JPY 108.88;
BUY EUR/JPY 132.76;
SELL EUR/USD 1.2227;
BUY EUR/GBP .6774;
BUY USD/CHF 1.2561;
BUY GBP/JPY 194.97;
GL GT
your comments are appreciated.
nyc jk 00:45 GMT September 9, 2004
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LOL , Raven.
Yeah sure tg, great idea. while you are here, do you think I should take profit on my EUR short from 1.2930? thanks in advance.
Global-View 00:43 GMT September 9, 2004
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Calabash (and others).
Note, Global-View 00:40 GMT September 9, 2004
For those who want a more personal and controlled environment, we have GVI for that purpose.
Calabash TarHeel 00:41 GMT September 9, 2004
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Frankly I have no interest in the majority of the the copy and paste info posted here. Perfectly capable of doing my own fact finding. The majority of financial news is the expressed opinion of that individual journalist, nothing more.
Global-View 00:40 GMT September 9, 2004
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We prefer to let the forum self-police itself when possible but sometimes, like now, we step in and strongly suggest getting back to the market.
As to what is relevant and what is not. This is not for us to judge as different people look at the market in different ways and what one person may find irrelevant, another may find valuable and vice versa. So, filter out what you don't find useful and take note of what posts interest you. .
London 00:33 GMT September 9, 2004
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hk ab problem you have with financial news is its affecting your bad trades. enough said
Dallas GEP 00:31 GMT September 9, 2004
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Tarheel, won't last long
dc fxq 00:31 GMT September 9, 2004
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mine was at 1.2029 LOL.
This thread is one reason I (and other I am sure) prefer NOT to post trades, suggestions, etc. on this or any other forum. Data, news releases, articles or to help with question like "What time is the ... ", sure thing. Trades, opinions, advice no way.
SanFrancisco tg 00:31 GMT September 9, 2004
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Just do your thing and dont focus on who you think is cheating the forum in my opinion, unless its really an atrocity like fraud advertisement or praising the 911 event. Just let it go and get on with business guys.
Va Raven 00:26 GMT September 9, 2004
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Really? Nice trade, JK!
nyc jk 00:21 GMT September 9, 2004
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tg - would you think it is of use if I posted now that I bought EUR today at 1.2030?
nyc jk 00:21 GMT September 9, 2004
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and by the way, posting factual news stories is beneficial to the members of GV. it is the posting of alleged trades 2% away from current market that wastes space and downgrades GV.
SanFrancisco tg 00:20 GMT September 9, 2004
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Suggestion - why don't you two ignore eachother from now on and just post your ideas.
nyc jk 00:17 GMT September 9, 2004
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ab - TRUTH ? when NZD was at .6425, if you posted at that time that you covered your short NZD there, that would be called TRUTH and a nice trade. when NZD is at .6535/40 and you post that you bought at .6425 it can only be one of two things a. BULLSH*T or b. UNPROFESSIONAL take your pick.
Cairo Amgad 00:13 GMT September 9, 2004
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Hello Friends;
My positions today are:
BUY USD/JPY
BUY EUR/JPY
SELL EUR/USD
BUY EUR/GBP
BUY USD/CHF
BUY GBP/JPY
GL GT
hk ab 00:12 GMT September 9, 2004
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together with the tonnes of "news-triggering-info" everyday which totally downgrades GVI.
Calabash TarHeel 00:11 GMT September 9, 2004
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Dallas GEP
Looks as if someone is trying hard to keep your gbp/jpy above 195.00
hk ab 00:10 GMT September 9, 2004
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jk//You are the exact reason why I am not interested in posting up earlier. It's up to what you think but hope you put your fingers away. No interest in any conversation with you.
Truth sustains long-run.....
GA TJ 00:09 GMT September 9, 2004
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wisconsin tim 22:57 GMT September 8, 2004
Well, I don't know if that is good or bad. But at least I know that I will have company in the Traders Ward of the FX Nut House. Feel as though every position I take has to be reversed to make a profit.
So I am going with the philosphy of " Don't Think Just Trade "
SanFrancisco tg 00:07 GMT September 9, 2004
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options limited above 133.10 I think GEP
Dallas GEP 00:03 GMT September 9, 2004
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Asian boys have been in for an hour. Aussie guys two hours now