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Forex Forum Archive for 12/05/2007

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Gen dk 23:51 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
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Syd .. 23:45 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
A Chinese team has been dispatched to carry out due diligence on Rio Tinto Ltd. (RTP), The Herald Sun reported Thursday citing unnamed sources.

There has been speculation that the Chinese could mount a bid to rival the proposed offer from BHP Billiton Ltd. (BHP.AU), and this has been stoked in recent days by comments from Chinese steelmakers.

Citing China-based market sources, the Herald Sun reported that Chinese interests have dispatched a team to conduct due diligence on Rio Tinto.

Philadelphia Caba 23:24 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
placed small eur/gbp long at 7180

Stockholm za 23:22 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   

USA Zeus 19:04 GMT…. Very very easy !!!! …lol
Your 18:24 GMT…
Long term = up
Medium term = up > 2,0097
Short term = down

Above 4 hours = up
Below 4 Hours = down

Happy trades to you……….

Syd .. 23:12 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
FM gdmg if your around whats your target on your long AUD thanks

St. Annaland Bob 21:35 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   

storm in (Chinese) cup of tea ... but, the quality of each leaf is second to none ... today was the Dutch national gifts for kids day, many happy kids all around Nederland today ... bottom line, out the 56 gifts I had to carry, only 4 were not made in China (EUR transforms into CNY) ... at least you all know where the money is going to, Chinese love forex ... happy trades!

USA BAY 20:41 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
HONG KONG AHE,

Good call and accurate prediction on the yen trades last week. Any view on gbp/jpy for the rest of the week. Thanks a lot for all your inputs. GT/GL

Syd .. 20:31 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
USD gaining strongly on RBNZ's hawkish economic outlook, will likely rally further, says Westpac strategist Michael Gordon; says RBNZ's tough talk on inflation surprised, but notes bank didn't mention global credit crisis. Says statement means "more attention" will be paid to NZD in coming months; expects NZD/USD to touch 0.7770; pair last 0.7712.

Como Perrie 20:31 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
usdcad has held so far today, but better rise stops 1.01 or higher to protect

Syd .. 20:20 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
RBNZ Gov: Expects Quite High Mtge Rates Through 2008
Reserve Bank Governor Alan Bollard said: "Economic activity has occurred largely as outlined in the September Monetary Policy Statement. Capacity pressures - particularly in the labour market - remain significant, while the housing market has clearly slowed. A substantial income boost is still expected to occur through 2008, as recent dairy price gains reach farmers.

"Nevertheless, the outlook has changed somewhat due to recent developments. Oil prices, which are nearly 30 percent higher than we assumed in September, and rapidly rising global food prices are likely to result in headline inflation above 3 percent for much of next year. In the medium term, despite ongoing fiscal surpluses, the likelihood of future personal tax cuts adds to the inflation outlook.

.

GVI john 20:15 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
RBNZ steady at 8.25% as expected.

GVI john 20:13 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Sorry about the outage. Some new programming was just being loaded.

dc CB 19:37 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
US Treasury Paulson to hold news conf on mortgage proposal at 1:45 PM on Thursday

TheNetherlands Purk 19:28 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
1 out of 2 closed. Other one at b/e already for the free pips. Just wait that the brain says that it will go down further than start longing...

USA Zeus 19:26 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
isr jweb 16:48 GMT December 5, 2007

We must remain calm. Patience is a virtue.

Gen dk 19:25 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
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The Netherlands Purk 19:21 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
First longs in on e/u. Starting small. More to long at 14590 and 80. s/l 14575. Target: a few pips here and there to 14630.

Como Perrie 19:20 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
hence likelyhood is higher now that eurusd prints tomorrow ahead of the ECB cut somewhere 1.4530/60

London NYAM 19:16 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
The Netherlands Purk// thank you sir! lucky hit so far im not looking for a huge amount though.

Como Perrie 19:15 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
The euro belgium contagion showing some into markets.

1.46 figure might be printed later on as per earlier

dc CB 19:12 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
PAR 18:58 GMT December 5, 2007
Paulson always blaming American problems on someone else China, ........... american companies like countrywide financial .

Rather it is the Wall Street Machine (Paulson and his ilk), that sold this toxic mix of securitized loan packages worldwide. CountryWide and similar now-no-longer-in-business loan companies could not have done any of these shakey loans without the Street. GS seems to have been the only one of the bunch that shorted the stuff even as they sold it.

Syd .. 19:12 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
BNZ Decision due at 0900 NZT, 2000GMT

The Netherlands Purk 19:11 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Well NYAM, you amaze me sometimes, 15 pips in the pocket already on e/g. Good work!

London NYAM 19:05 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Purk! Hi.
Rentered long usdjpy two hits 1/5 at 110.65 and 2/5 at 110.43 another 2/5 below at 110.28 and 110.15 stop under 109.68

USA Zeus 19:04 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Stockholm za 17:03 GMT December 5, 2007

That must have been easy for you to talk about. LOL

PAR 18:58 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Paulson always blaming American problems on someone else China, Russia,Iran, Japan , Opec etc while the housing problems are only to blame on america and american companies like countrywide financial .

Toronto YV 18:54 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
toronto Dr Unken Katt 18:50 , 3 pm EST .

toronto Dr Unken Katt 18:50 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Does anyone have RBNZ announcememnt time?

PAR 18:24 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Whatever US economic data political Washington and Wall street ordered Bernanke to lower rates and Bernanke will deliver. This makes it impossible if ever a democratic president should be elected to reappoint Bernanke .

USA Zeus 18:24 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
BTW- Anyone know what the "trend" is for GBP/USD? TIA

USA Zeus 18:21 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
austin gw 16:15 GMT December 5, 2007

Thx a lot gw! We love that sound when John Daly connects on a big drive for show.

For those who put for dough it looks like GBP/USD will have a little pop here soon. Oil seems to be ready for a free fall. Let's see.

Cheers!

PAR 18:18 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
US financial system more and more fragile.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ae3ViyHy8EE8&refer=home

NYC 18:18 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
ET, seems to be some flight to quality and renewed credit concerns after Moody's commented on MBIA.

The Netherlands Purk 18:03 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
London NYAM 17:15 GMT December 5, 2007

Joined you for 15 pips. lets see if the swing works.

NYC ET 17:54 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Is anyone surprised that jpy is not seeing more of a reaction to increased risk appetite caused by firmer stocks?

London NYAM 17:17 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
and reversed with a 1/5 possie on GBPUSD at 2.0271.
Off home g'night.

London NYAM 17:15 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
t/p and reversed to short eurgbp here at .7236 stop .7251

Stockholm za 17:03 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   

...¤v¤...
We are still watching the GV-FF Fear and Greed Index.
Easier said/talk-about than done.
If you have not yet made your yearly % ,
you will not get/make it in the next few weeks.
Happy trades………..

isr is 16:54 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
out on all my shorts usdgbps....wait and see

isr jweb 16:48 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
zeus dear. no hammering on eur/usd. yet...

London NYAM 16:48 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Hong Kong Qindex 15:51 GMT December 5, 2007
GBP/USD : The market may be able to settle around 2.0257 at New York closing.


Hong Kong Qindex 09:54 GMT December 5, 2007
GBP/USD : The market is going to tackle 2.0291 and 2.0371. The current expected trading range is 2.0257 - 2.0396.

isr is 16:45 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Dr. Q target? 1.02 figure?

London NYAM 16:42 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
As I type it looks like its trying for Dr Qs target...

London NYAM 16:40 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
is//i am out of 80% of my position. and am adding to shorts at a spread above these levels. 2.0346x1/2.0436 x2/2.0477 x2 stop and potential reverse mentality at break of 2.0525. These targets are assuming we have bottomed, and thats a big assumption, which is why im still holding 1/5 of my position.

isr is 16:32 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
NYAM should take profits on GBPUSD, short since 2.0635 but looks like no strength, no¿¿¿¿??

London NYAM 16:20 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
I think we un out of steam on this run up both in equities and in dollar appreciation. looking to reenter now long again on a retracement (for GBPUSD, USDJPY).

austin gw 16:15 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
USA Zeus 16:07 GMT December 5, 2007

good stuff Z!
**golf clap**

London NYAM 16:12 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
t/p on half long USDJPY from 109.65 at 110.94

Hong Kong Qindex 16:08 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
USD/CAD : The followings are still valid :=


Hong Kong Qindex 14:48 GMT December 4, 2007
USD/CAD : A barrier is expected at 1.0172. The current expected trading range is 1.0129 - 1.0172.


Hong Kong Qindex 14:44 GMT December 4, 2007
USD/CAD : The market momentum is strong when it is able to close above 1.0228 in New York.

USA Zeus 16:07 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Will cover first slice of GBP/USD just below 2.0000 after final short entry at 2.1112 as posted.

Cheers!

MLT PA 16:05 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
HK Kevin 16:00 GMT
If above 111.08 is a buy why then stop 111.58 - possible spike?

USA Zeus 16:03 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
isr jweb 02:28 GMT December 5, 2007

good old zeus. all over again? when is this going to happen. if ever?


Patience and then to the victor goes the spoils.

Happy Day!

Hong Kong Qindex 16:02 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Hong Kong Qindex 02:24 GMT December 5, 2007
GBP/CHF : the barriers are located at 2.2700 // 2.2762, 2.2848 // 2.2868 and 2.2913 // 1.2919.

Hong Kong Qindex 02:22 GMT December 5, 2007
GBP/CHF : The market is going to challenge the following targets at 2.2762 - 2.2845 - 2.2919.


Hong Kong Qindex 12:36 GMT December 4, 2007
GBP/CHF : It is going to tackle the range 2.3004 - 2.3020.

HK Kevin 16:00 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
MLT PA 15:43 GMT, USD/JPY is a buy above 111.08 if you see my post to Hong Kong Ahe.

Hong Kong Ahe 15:59 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
HK Kevin 14:42 GMT - Hi Kevin, the cross obeys pretty well following my last Wednesday post to USA Bay and also Sunday post to HK ab.
HK Kevin 15:06 GMT one more things. USD/JPY is forming an inverse H&S in the 4-hr chart with neckline near 111.08. It means long this pair with the neckline broken. - Hi Kevin, The critical_range_top should be around 111.68/78. Sell USDJPY when it is close to. Carry Trade will be unwind more as yesterday BOC cut rate and today UK rock nationalize story in this week. Aussie no rate hike and it is expected Kiwi also no rate hike tomorrow. GLGT.

NYC NYC3 15:54 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Belgium's gdp has barely grown . their annual GDP is about equal to 1 week of US output. does Belgium even matter?
could the roots of this be- in a high debt low growth state,
mindests go looking to blame?

Hong Kong Qindex 15:51 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
GBP/USD : The market may be able to settle around 2.0257 at New York closing.


Hong Kong Qindex 09:54 GMT December 5, 2007
GBP/USD : The market is going to tackle 2.0291 and 2.0371. The current expected trading range is 2.0257 - 2.0396.

The Netherlands Purk 15:46 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Good day. Pattern 2 was 14740+30. Instead of shorting e/u I shorted e/j will not tell where and when because than i had to do it when i did it.... Rangetrader is looking for a long in e/u now.
Lets see. Have to wait and see if 14613 is not hit by surprise…

Como Perrie 15:46 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
tomorrow BOE and ECB next week FED, imvho emergency cuts are needed for all maybe 1/4.

MLT PA 15:43 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
HK Kevin 15:27 GMT
Yeah watching 111.20/35 to sell with 109.10 the first target, would be a buyer 107.50/30 exit 106.80.

madrid mm 15:39 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
malver , try the future forum, they might help you.

toronto Malver Sant 15:37 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
hi there

is there are natural gas chart link you can recommend ?

madrid mm 15:34 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
1/
Good daytraders and swing trades result from high-percentage "set-ups". Each day must be viewed in a larger context, which might be one day to two weeks of market action. Understanding how markets “set up” to make predictable moves and anticipating these moves through the set-up is a valuable key to success.

2/
“A successful short-term trading system must be profitable, consistent, and personal--conforming to the unique psychological and methodological needs of the individual,” they said.

Both from Howard Abell and Bob Koppel

madrid mm 15:31 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
FWIW and IMHO in day-trading if you find yourself in a market that is very dull, look elsewhere. Time is scarce and watching a dull market drains energy. 8-)

HK Kevin 15:27 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
MLT PA 15:16 GMT, I prefer sell USD/JPY at 111.00 with stop above 111.58 and target previous low 107.30

MLT PA 15:16 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
USD/JPY: sell 111.35 Exit 111.85 target 109.10
USD/CHF: sell 1.1260/80 Exit 1.1345 target 1.1100
EUR/JPY: sell 163.35 Exit 164.00 target 160.60

HK Kevin 15:06 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Hong Kong Ahe, one more things. USD/JPY is forming an inverse H&S in the 4-hr chart with neckline near 111.08. It means long this pair with the neckline broken. Kindly have your comment only if you has time.

Como Perrie 15:06 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
US DATA: Oct factory new orders +0.5%, well above expectations for a flat reading. Nondurables orders were +1.3% in Oct on gains in chemical products and petroleum products, likely price-related. Durables orders were revised up to -0.2% (prev -0.4%). Inventories +0.1% and shipments +1.0%, while unfilled orders +1.0%. Nondefense capital goods shipments were -0.3%, and were -0.9% excluding civilian aircraft shipments.

Gen dk 15:02 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
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Como Perrie 15:02 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
at this point having less doubts 1.46 eurusd under a closer laser test.

warsaw TOMi 14:54 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
MLT PA 14:51 GMT December 5, 2007

yes, did that yesterday, now we are close to this again.

MLT PA 14:51 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
warsaw TOMi 14:30 GMT
Yes possibly, watching 1.4645/38 area to enter.

warsaw TOMi 14:50 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Hong Kong Ahe 09:36 GMT December 5, 2007

cheers,I shall getout of long cable.

Como Perrie 14:46 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
or

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_market_crash

HK Kevin 14:42 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Hong Kong Ahe, quite a lot cross pair moves earlier this week and make me confused. Does your critical day this Fri of carry trade unwinding still valid?

warsaw TOMi 14:40 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
thx NYAM,I have be at 20393 for long cable, will reduce when we get close to 20390,and add when breaks up ,in case of fail will short.

London NYAM 14:39 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Apologies my posts getting sloppy. (No sleep last night)
Should read i see cable above 2.11 later. ALso previopus post on t/p half at .7218 was for EURGBP not EURUSD.

Como Perrie 14:38 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
overall euro is clearly set for a long term switch. might last longer if stays sidedown or drop clearly onto unexpeted bad news from europe which are more likely then ever...politics are getting weird anywhere here...imagine 12 donkeys linked where anyone ones to go different paths :)9

London NYAM 14:34 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Tomi//You may be right 9i see us evenyually getting back above the 2.011 high but i still think that we will see sub 2.0200 first.
That lasty post was just a cover for a retrace to 2.0375 area

warsaw TOMi 14:33 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
if not cable will test 20111 sooner rather then ltr.

warsaw TOMi 14:32 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
London NYAM 14:30 GMT December 5, 2007

adding tolong cable with you NYAM. by weekend shud be above water.

warsaw TOMi 14:30 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
MLT PA 14:27 GMT December 5, 2007

u think we're gonna reach the 4625-50 buy zone again for eurusd
when?
today?

London NYAM 14:30 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
buying back 1/3 of short from 2.0659 (avg from posted) here at 2.0314 will see if i get a chance to add it back. I think we may have come close to ending wave 3 of this (i expect) five waver down.

MLT PA 14:27 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
EUR/USD: buy 1.4640 Stop/Exit 1.4560 target 1.4830 then 1.4950

Como Perrie 14:21 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Also short eur/cad might be the best trade today, maybe tomorrow too

Como Perrie 14:19 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Do wonder if eurusd capable to confirm downward momentum printing below 1.46 later/tomorrow

HK Kevin 14:18 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
NZD is testing a small trendline resistance 0.7675 of the H&S being formed in the daily chart. WIth AUD/NZD has tested and hold the 1.1330 daily support, I just entered small short NZD at 0.7670 with 20 pips stop.

Como Perrie 14:16 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
madrid mm 13:56 GMT December 5, 2007

:)) It means they will buy less foreign bonds

USA Zeus 14:16 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
London Neil-

Is EUR/USD 1.50 still "next"? TIA

Como Perrie 14:12 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
huge usdcad orders holding, most seemingly around the 1.01 figure more or less

madrid mm 14:02 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
so we will go from Yen carry trade to US$ carry trade then 8-)

PAR 14:01 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Hearing even Japan may raise interest rates next year after carefully watching and monitoring markets .

madrid mm 13:56 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
fwiw and whatever that means ...

Dec. 5 (Bloomberg) -- China plans to shift to a ``tight'' monetary policy in 2008, signaling the government may raise interest rates further and allow quicker currency appreciation as the economy heads for its fastest expansion in 12 years.

Como Perrie 13:54 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/be.html

madrid mm 13:53 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Como Perrie 13:47 GMT December 5, 2007

they can split whenever they want really...As long as they make good chocolate, i will be happy 8-)

madrid mm 13:51 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
London NYAM 13:47 GMT December 5, 2007

LOL

Thank you for all contributors in this forum, i am becoming more and more INsane 8-)

Talk of David Copperfield, long, short, Gisele, Kampo, DNT, mini ac, micro ac, real ac, demo ac, vigilence, cable, Bennie, Trichet and Co, Northern Rock, etc.

it is so difficult to take it all in...... 8-(0

USA Zeus 13:48 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Don't taze me bro, don't taze me!
LOL

London NYAM 13:47 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
mm//lol. fortunately we all are (unless we are deluded).

Como Perrie 13:47 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
London HC 13:43 GMT December 5, 2007

apparently belgium wants to split in two new nations, the dutch and french parts mostly.. Its since june they are without a government...scroll news or earlier for more details. Might happen elsewhere eurozone imvho

madrid mm 13:45 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
London NYAM 13:23 GMT December 5, 2007

I am confused everyday 8-)

London NYAM 13:44 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
T/p on 1/2 EURUSD long from .7091 here at .7218

London HC 13:43 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Como. What eurobeligium problems? Can you elaborate on this?

Como Perrie 13:41 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
ADPs were super good, but factory orders buck negative. Still the euro belgium problems might be a leading factor next weeks/days imo

PAR 13:32 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
3thd qtr Us unit labor costs -2 % . Calculated by David Copperfield . lol.

Gen dk 13:30 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
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HK Kevin 13:26 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Any reason NZD is holding firmly?

Gen dk 13:26 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
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PAR 13:26 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Economically for an independent Fed it makes sense to lower interest rates to help some wellpaid bankers and politicians . Politically it is a done deal that Bush appointee Bernanke will cut Fed and Discount rate with at least 50BP .

London NYAM 13:23 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Poor USDJPY is a little confused. Strong ADP suggests economy may be turning a corner or at least not falling off the cliff. So we should see it rally, on the other hand, the fig may give a hint to the Fed to hold or rule out a 50 basis cut. That will hurt equities so the pair should fall.
This time de-linkage i beleive will occur and the Equities will still choose to rally into the close. Just a hunch.
Im long from 109.65 so i can stay in for a while.

PAR 13:17 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
ADP +189.000 . No need to lower Us rates, on the contrary employment growth suggest overheating economy . Lol.

Mtl JP 13:11 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
bilbao is 12:13 / caveat note: most everyone is talking in terms of usdcad. you have indicated "long CADUSD from 1.0018", which would mean short usd, long cad.
fwiw.

tokyo ginko 13:02 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
usd/cad am seeing a final burst to 1.03 before year end..GT all.

Como Perrie 12:45 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Euro 1-mth Libor fixed at 4.85438% vs 4.84875% Tuesday

London NYAM 12:39 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
bilbao FWIW 1.0125 to 1.0147 should stay in tact for further moves. But Perrie is right a partoial profit take might be good around here. glgt.

bilbao is 12:31 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
I meant stuck, not stock at the figure...I did expect the rate cut!!!!

Como Perrie 12:25 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
very good bilbao..so far do not know for stops usdcad..not watching currently there just noticed superb highs printed

in general is good to cache some and hold some larger term if there scope for such does exists...think we are approaching some key levels here and can't imagine what this funambolic candian can do next

maybe NYAM knows it better..

Mtl JP 12:25 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
bilbao is 12:13 / USDcad might see some sellers around 1.0250, but the pair now has good short-term chance to try going for 1.0350ish
(note: IF u are using cadusd quote u ll have calculate reverse ratios)

isr petro 12:25 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
bilbao, 1.04 possible...

bilbao is 12:13 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
I am stock long CADUSD from 1.0018. Where should the stop level be?tks

Como Perrie 12:03 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Mortgage report said there to be errors and revision to be done before It clears out. Not nice in general for markets such bad accountant practices imo

Como Perrie 11:59 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
ADPs are seen between 50 and 80K, previous was 106K.

Below 50K would be dollar negative, above 80 to 100 choppy, higher dollar positive. So by thumb

Como Perrie 11:50 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
no big from BRC shop

next from US mortgage applications nov 30, previous was -4.3pct

8.15 ADP

then 9:30 Nonfarm productivity, unit labor costs

at 10 Factory orders and ISM non manufacturing

later on tonite New Zealand rate decision

GVI john 11:10 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
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Como Perrie 11:08 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
BRC shop price index next from UK

Syd .. 10:44 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Interfax: Putin Tells Iran To Freeze Uranium Enrichment -AFP

Como Perrie 10:38 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Just yesterday, following a research from Corriere della Sera, onto the public administration workers, who are the majority in this country - has printed there is a 30 pct of people do not go simply at work, but get paid as some others are covering em in exchange to be covered again. Charts showing women are top, and the south is more chronic for such habits.

The leader of confindustria, the association of industrialists yesterday said such a process cuts the GDP by 1 pct yearly.


http://www.corriere.it/economia/07_dicembre_01/scandalo_bonus_presenza_95180af2-9fe1-11dc-8bf1-0003ba99c53b.shtml

Como Perrie 10:28 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
sick etc..mind types... am bit busy elsewhere do finger printing:)

Como Perrie 10:28 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
St. Annaland Bob 10:23 GMT December 5, 2007

:))) well yes Italy has yet some very old system inheritated yes..US is a modern one and surely more efficient..

newspapers here everyday mentioning the huge illigal immigration and some northern towns are getting seek of the whole black markets and works and the consequent drugs, prostitution and expanding all sorts of crimes

while the south with yet more ancient traditions copes better with It, guess who's behind...even if most northern feel we dropped into an sort of the worst south american sort of contagions.

Jerusalem ML 10:26 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Hi all

TIP of the Day-

SELL GOLD 801
Target by friday - 775

good luck

Gen dk 10:25 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
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St. Annaland Bob 10:23 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Como Perrie 10:20 GMT December 5, 2007

but, you must mention the reason! ... in Italy you pay the mafia to protect the PC from viruses while in USA you just buy software ... but, at the end both infect you ;)

Como Perrie 10:20 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
funny computers in Italy cost twice those in US for those who are interested

Como Perrie 10:19 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
PAR 10:14 GMT December 5, 2007

yeap that is an important part of the story, but so anywhere global factories and multinationals seeking lower wages..as a result tax income of nations is lowering as the mid class has been already sat onto burden..yet more to come, before the newspapers and politicians to admit It

PAR 10:14 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Imho this is the new trend , after closing of factories and relocating of production outside of eurozone , european consumers seeking revenge relocate their consumption outside the eurozone making Trichet and ECB irrelevant .

Como Perrie 10:10 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
2008 will be a good year for some stock market crashes imo

Como Perrie 10:10 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
PAR 10:04 GMT December 5, 2007

I guess that is done too. Most spending capabilities eroded between higher food prices, higher taxes, loans covering, and higher energy bills.

In between interesting to note the retail investment sector loss of funding in progress.


imo next year will be yet sharper the gap

PAR 10:04 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Euro zone oct retail sales down 0.7 vs O.3 expected . As prices are too high european consumers stop consuming or relocate their consumption if possible to outside eurozone like to USA or other countries with currencies pegged to the dollar . Ebay is great in doing so .

Tallinn viies 10:03 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
So far euro managed to stay over 1,4700. bullish picture still there but if 1,4630/35 doesnt hold I give up with my bullish view. Still keeping my stop just below 1,4695.

Como Perrie 09:58 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
or else we go down 2.0330/00

Hong Kong Qindex 09:58 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
EUR/GBP : The market momentum is strong when it is able to trade above 2.7198. The next targeting range is 0.7232 - 0.7249.

Hong Kong Qindex 09:54 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
GBP/USD : The market is going to tackle 2.0291 and 2.0371. The current expected trading range is 2.0257 - 2.0396.

Como Perrie 09:53 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
mumbling this current gbpusd 2.04 minor selling point to get hit again onto higher 00410/30 maybe

Como Perrie 09:52 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
fwiw just cut out eurgbp longs..now flat there

GENEVA DS 09:51 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
eventually soon we will have more news in financial stocks... why not Swiss government overtakes UBS, French government overtakes BNP and American Government overtakes CITI-, Morgan and GS.... funny..

PAR 09:48 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Actually a stronger yen should be positive for us and european markets as it may start eventually to reduce the gigantic japanese trade surplusses fuelled by a too weak currency and surrealistic japanese interest rates . Only Us investment banks as big sponsors of the carry trades try to convince the world that a weak yen is good for the Us stock market while there actually is no correlation .

Gen dk 09:39 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
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Hong Kong YH 09:38 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
It is very weird, Europe Zone stock markets all up more than 1%, but JPY still heading south, rebound 30pips... for GBP, already break all the support, next key support is 2.0350. Please comment buddy.

Hong Kong Ahe 09:36 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
warsaw TOMi 09:28 GMT - Hi TOMi, watch the stop carefully. If GBPUSD broke 2.0268 will go to test next support of 1.9880. GLGT.

Mumbai NS 09:34 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Gbp at neckline support took some off the table but will continue to hold the view that it goes lower gl gt

Hong Kong YH 09:34 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
warsaw TOMi 08:40 GMT December 5, 2007
Did you stop loss?

Mumbai Navin 09:29 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Syd .. 09:21 GMT December 5, 2007
Mumbai Navin 09:11 sorry think you have to subscribe to that bank

Thax Syd.

warsaw TOMi 09:28 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
long cable added 20390 for jump up by weekend

Blore RKG 09:27 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Thanks NS for that piece of info - i see some channel/trend
support at 225 - having broken that, see another fig lower. Short yen at 110.50. stop 60 and t/p 110.10. pretty good amount there. Thanks mate!!

PAR 09:24 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
With the Uk government and BOE pumping so much money in the UK economy directly and indirectly UK service PMI should be better as expected .

madrid mm 09:22 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
There is something very strange going on in the UK at the moment
8-)

Mumbai NS 09:22 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
RKG took some off the table looking to renter higher gl gt

Syd .. 09:21 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Mumbai Navin 09:11 sorry think you have to subscribe to that bank

madrid mm 09:18 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
PAR 08:46 GMT December 5, 2007

Imagine that.
How about this canoeist who reappeared at the weekend more than five years after he had gone missing off the coast of northeast England and was presumed drowned. I hope for him that is money wa not at NR.

So now he comes back...He can not access his money at NR... he learns that it is going to be nationalized... he might go back on his canoe

LOL

shanghai bc 09:12 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Bodrum OEE 09:10 GMT December 5, 2007

Thanks..All the best..

Mumbai Navin 09:11 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Syd .. 08:37 GMT December 5, 2007
FWIW

Cable has shed 150 ticks so far Wednesday, printing a low of 2.0449. Commerzbank analyst Andrew Hart pegs key support for the rate at 2.0452 (the 3 month uptrend) and then 2.0536 (the 55-day moving average). He favors the latter holding at this level, and would be a buyer there, with a stop at 2.0351 for an eventual target of 2.0800-50.

Syd: where can i get andy's reports pl. TIA

Bodrum OEE 09:10 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
shanghai 09:05 GMT December 5, 2007

BC have a good month and regards

Bodrum OEE 09:08 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
shanghai bc 09:05 GMT December 5, 2007


and thank God for that ;)

Como Perrie 09:07 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Maybe I'll cut out too, gotta see

shanghai bc 09:05 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
PAR 08:46 GMT December 5, 2007

Knowth thy neighbour..UK has been a socialist paradise for many decades now..

tokyo ginko 09:05 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
looking to see gbp target is 20150-20200 levels. GT all

Como Perrie 09:03 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
fwiw am tightening stops ahead of Trichets onto remaining eurgbps longs from yesterday.

Hong Kong YH 09:00 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
GBP breaks key support 2.0455, now next target is 2.035

London 08:54 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
any Idea about EUR/USD ?

PAR 08:46 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
UK labor governments plan to nationalise Northen Rock may sound good in Venezuela or Zimbabwee but in a free market oriented european economic union where the Uk is against anything that could hurt free market, free trade and limited government it is just nonsense and should not be permitted.

Washington MRM 08:43 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Still short GBP/JPY from earlier around these levels. Would like to see it test the 225.50 level once more.

For that to happen, would need to have more than current GBP weakness - perhaps falling equity markets would help. IMHO.

warsaw TOMi 08:40 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
LONG cable 20477, target open

Blore RKG 08:40 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Mumbai NS 08:35 GMT December 5, 2007

Thanks Mate.

Syd .. 08:37 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
FWIW

Cable has shed 150 ticks so far Wednesday, printing a low of 2.0449. Commerzbank analyst Andrew Hart pegs key support for the rate at 2.0452 (the 3 month uptrend) and then 2.0536 (the 55-day moving average). He favors the latter holding at this level, and would be a buyer there, with a stop at 2.0351 for an eventual target of 2.0800-50.

Mumbai NS 08:35 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
RKG i mentioned that in a talk to NYAM sometime back and don't know with what ups and downs that will happen but looks like a gud chance and my trade for next year is in this pair only as the big trade cheers gud luck n all the best gl gt

Blore RKG 08:32 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Mumbai NS 08:16 GMT December 5, 2007
RKG hold it just a matter of time gl gt

Sure NS - the weeklies show a H&S with rhs completing at neckline 218.55. Momentum assures a test there. If lucky and if we break, my year is made!! Thanks mate.

Como Perrie 08:30 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
but would not play Tichets wording..long day ahead - btw stocks markets having hard times as the classic long list of retail investors is missing forcing bank to buy back more risks. A very bad long term spiral imo

AMS MAXXIM 08:29 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
split over autonomy plans? fuel rebate btw LASTKRAFTwager mtax

Como Perrie 08:27 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
fwiw Trichet speaks in one hour, guess dovish to curb euro rise

Mumbai NS 08:16 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
RKG hold it just a matter of time gl gt

Blore RKG 08:14 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   

Thanks NS - tho i missed the sell reco by a whisker. Am short there indeed. GL

Como Perrie 08:06 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
The following problems high likely to spread into several european complex zones, from Belgium to Spain maybe Italy. Some is too between the two Germanies, but in different manners.


The political crisis has left Belgium without a government since elections in June. The Dutch- and French-speaking parties are split over autonomy plans.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7126381.stm

Mumbai NS 08:03 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Blore RKG 06:30 GMT December 5, 2007
Mate gud call cheers! gl gt

madrid mm 07:58 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
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Como Perrie 07:31 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
There's huge talk in europe about bank regulations improovments, this as from this sommer some several banks went short of liquidity and receiving help from ECB. One very big is now over 10 billions liquidity short, but the list is increasing monthly as assets and liabilities have been managed too much as sort of buy and holders, cutting heavy into liquidity and capital even for instititutions, as for private investors much earlier.

madrid mm 06:45 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   


* UK"s Northern Rock could be nationalized by February - UKtelegraph.
* UK Nov Nationwide consumer confidence 86, Oct 98, steepest fall on record.
* UK KPMG/REC survey shows weaker growth of permanent jobs, salaries.
* RBA leaves official cash rate at 6.75%, case for tightening clear but creditmarket developments also important, to announce policy meeting results onsame day as meeting in future, to make statement after each meeting, to issueminutes two weeks after each meeting.
* Australia Tsy Swan - Economy growing strongly, higher CPI risk to growth, Asiadriving growth, US subprime woes won"t affect Asia hard - DowJones.
* Australia Q3 GDP +1.0% q/q, as eyed, +4.3% y/y, +4.8% eyed, Q2 rev +0.7% q/q.
* Australia Nov PSI +3.2 pts to 56.4, still comfortably above 50.
* Australia Nov SEEK job ads-applications index jumps +5.35% m/m, +14.5% y/y.
* Australia Nov new vehicle sales +3.1% m/m, +10.5% y/y - VFACTS.
* NZ Nov commodity prices at record high, ANZ index +0.8%m/m to 214.9, +36%y/y.
* OPEC seems ready to stand pat on output quotas - Wall Street Journal.
* OPEC official - Likely to leave output as is, more talks on policy in Jan -DJ.



[GMT]

08:00 Japan FinMin Nukaga regular press conference.
08:00 OPEC conference in Abu Dhabi, no change in output quotas eyed.
N/A BoE MPC begins two-day monetary policy meeting.
08:30 ECB President Trichet speech in Berlin.
16:45 US TsySec Paulson speech on China in Washington, DC.
20:30 BoC Gov-designate Carney testimony in House of Commons.
N/A Details of US Treasury plan on subprime mortgages.

[USD/JPY] and JPY crosses moved higher in Asia on the report that UK authoritiesare considering nationalizing the problem-ridden mortgage lender should private-
sector interest in buying the company fail. USD/JPY was already better bid ontalk of semi-official Japanese bids in the 109.50-60 area, lows from overnight,and importer settlement demand at the Tokyo fix.

[EUR/USD] opened in Asia at 1.4760, near yesterday"s high of 1.4775 after bearswere cleaned out in the surge from 1.4635. Given overbought conditions on theshort-term hourlies, it corrected downwards initially. The downside was limited
to 1.4746 with the subsequent EUR/JPY surge pushing EUR/USD up to 1.4771.EUR/USD has since edged lower again.

[GBP/USD] opened in Asia at 2.0590, rallied briefly to 2.0615 before fallingthereafter to 2.0550 on the back of weak consumer confidence data, a host ofarticles in the UK press which were downbeat on the economy, and expectations insome quarters of a possible BoE MPC ease following the surprise BoC move
overnight. Bid were noted at the session low and below around 2.0525. Tighttrader stops are seen below the latter. [EUR/GBP] opened at 0.7169 and traded a0.7166-84 range. Light trader stops were triggered on the break above 0.7180.

[USD/CHF] opened soggy but eventually traded up on subsiding risk aversion,trading a 1.1151-83 range. [EUR/CHF] also perked up, trading up from 1.6476 to1.6497.

[Other Asset Markets]

[The Nikkei] headed further south early, trading down to 15,365.39. itstabilized thereafter, surging in the afternoon session to 15,621.54 on theNorthern Rock news, closing out the day at 15,608.88, up 128.69 points or 0.83%

on the day. [TOPIX] closed at 1526.63, up 11.13 or 0.73%. Other Asian bourses inthe region were mixed on the day.

[JGBs] and [Euroyen] futures were initially better bid but fell later on thestock market rally.

madrid mm 06:36 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Hello and good morning FX Jedi from planet Earth

8-)

Blore RKG 06:30 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Sterling Yen : Preferred Trade : Short 227.40, stop 227.75, target 225.25.

Washington MRM 06:08 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Am short GBP/JPY @ slightly lower level. Looking for a reason to get out or stay in for big ride lower.

I think that GBP should be underminded by the surprise BOC cut which should foster expectations that the BOE will also cut. However, JPY weakness on stocks worries me this morning. Staying in for now... but will be quick to jump break above 227. More thoughts would be appreciated.

memphis PK 06:05 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
forex forum, I am back...

Syd .. 04:19 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Nikkei wanders into positive territory, now up 0.1% at 15502.32, but traders say trade still largely directionless. "There aren't a lot of reasons to buy, the index will probably stay in a tight range, as most people are still waiting for the FOMC (meeting) next week," says Yutaka Miura, manager at Shinko Securities. Retailers leading gains

hk ab 03:38 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
thanks Dr. Q for your generous help.

Hong Kong Qindex 03:30 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
GBP/JPY : The followings are still valid :


Hong Kong Qindex 14:42 GMT December 4, 2007
GBP/JPY : the current expected trading range is 224.97 - 227.08.


Hong Kong Qindex 14:35 GMT December 4, 2007
GBP/JPY : Heading Towards 225.33 // 225.66.

Mumbai NS 03:15 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Dr Q gud day sir any thots on stgyen tks gl gt

toronto Dr Unken Katt 03:15 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Mr Qindex do you have an opinion on the pound yen ?
tia

Hong Kong Qindex 02:57 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
hk ab 02:41 GMT - I havn't update my data file. It will be later this week.

Hong Kong Qindex 02:53 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
GBP/AUD : A projected resistant barrier is located at 2.3744 // 2.3754. It is likely that the market will reverse its its direction and tackle the supporting barriers at 2.3306 // 2.3317. The current expected trading range is 2.3496 - 2.3705.

Syd .. 02:49 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
USD/JPY rises as institutional investors triggered stop-loss buying orders just above 110.00, says senior sales dealer at major Japan bank.

USA BAY 02:48 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
HONG KONG QINDEX,

Thanks a lot for the gbp/chf outlook, would be very grateful if you can kindly update us on the gbp/aud pair. Thanks a lot.

hk ab 02:41 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Dr. Q, can we have an update on gold from you on future F? TIA.

Hong Kong Qindex 02:33 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
EUR/GBP : The market momentum is strong and it is going to tackle the trading range at 0.7181 - 0.7198.


Hong Kong Qindex 13:32 GMT December 4, 2007
EUR/GBP : Heading Towards 0.7177.

Hong Kong Qindex 02:30 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
GBP/USD : The market is under pressure when it is trading under 2.0598 and speculative selling pressure will increase when it is below 2.0546. The critical supporting point is 2.0257.

isr jweb 02:28 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
good old zeus. all over again? when is this going to happen. if ever?

USA Zeus 02:25 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
EUR/USD is going to hammer 1.4000
GBP/USD is going to blow past 2.0000

Hong Kong Qindex 02:24 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
GBP/CHF : the barriers are located at 2.2700 // 2.2762, 2.2848 // 2.2868 and 2.2913 // 1.2919.

Hong Kong Qindex 02:22 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
GBP/CHF : The market is going to challenge the following targets at 2.2762 - 2.2845 - 2.2919.


Hong Kong Qindex 12:36 GMT December 4, 2007
GBP/CHF : It is going to tackle the range 2.3004 - 2.3020.

Syd .. 02:00 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Chinese consider Rio Tinto bid
THE Rudd Government may soon be facing the first big challenge to its vaunted China expertise - a counter-bid from China's leading steel mills for Rio Tinto.

In a sign that mining giant BHP Billiton has failed to reassure its Chinese steel customers that its proposed $160 billion takeover of Rio is not a threat, Xu Lejiang, president of the country's biggest steel maker, Baosteel, reportedly said a counter bid was being actively considered.

Syd .. 01:37 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Australian Treasurer Wayne Swan said Wednesday the economy is growing strongly but he flagged further inflationary risks.

"The national accounts data showed the economy is growing strongly," he told reporters.

However, pressure from capacity constraints and wage pressures are contributing to risks from for higher inflation.

The Treasurer welcomed the move the Reserve Bank of Australia to publish it board meeting minutes and an accompanying statement.

Syd .. 01:23 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Australia Treasurer: Asia Driving Australian Economy

Syd .. 01:12 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Australia Treasurer: Higher Inflation Remains Risk To Econ

austin mw 00:55 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Orange County Says 20% of Fund in SIV Debt, Faces Rating Review

By William Selway and Michael B. Marois

Dec. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Orange County, California, the county that in 1994 was bankrupted by bad bets on interest rates, has about 20 percent of a fund it runs invested in structured investment vehicles that may face credit-rating cuts.
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Our old friends are back in the news again

toronto Dr Unken Katt 00:52 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
ausie is still short , will retest the old supp probably at 2650

Syd .. 00:52 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
Despite a fall in mining sector output in 3Q reflecting supply problems, Australian economy continues to expand at vibrant, above-trend pace, says Macquarie Bank economist Brian Redican; quarterly GDP growth likely to stay around 1.0% in 4Q, head into 2008 at 4% annual pace - above Australia's long-term trend growth of 3.75%; so, adds "given the strength of this growth, the Reserve Bank will have to raise rates, possibly twice in the first half of 2008".

One of the banks view

USA BAY 00:32 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
AUSTRALIA ECON: GDP For Q3 Up 1% Median Forecast up 1%, last up 0.9%

Gen dk 00:05 GMT December 5, 2007 Reply   
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