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Forex Forum Archive for 12/17/2007

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Gen dk 23:45 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
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Philadelphia Caba 22:59 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
London NYAM
re eur/gbp thanks! r u just 'wave' surfer?

London NYAM 22:50 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Maribor//Different time frames thats all.
Some thoughts before bedtime: I took some longs S&P end of NY as I see a rally is coming rather than a sell-off. So in terms of the currencies my suspician is a continued disconect in the short term between the correlaton between US equities and the carry, which has been in a holding pattern for some time now. The dollar has been the centerpoint of trade, as it has strengthened, but now i suspect it may become pressured again by those seeing this as an opportunity to get short again. How far that goes is tough to say but a rebounding stock market and a fallimg dolar implies markets re-focusing on interest rate expectations. I am speaking of the short term ie:1 to 2/3 weeks.

Maribor 22:39 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
After some thinking regarding AUDGBP, maybe (after 0,422) not much can be said about cable. My previous conclusion may be wrong.

Maribor 22:34 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
USA BAY 22:07 GMT December 17, 2007

Turning points need not coincide in time.

Stockholm za 22:10 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   

The EURUSD 1.4393 close level makes it very neutral.
A supply / demand stand off…
With the monthly average already taken….
Good for the guys that trade the coin-system & the 20 pips crew..

toronto Malver Sant 22:08 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Maribor 20:59 GMT December 17, 2007
GBPJPY to visit 223 area next...

...where do u get this info??

USA BAY 22:07 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Maribor,

If turning point in gbp/aud is 2,369x, when aud/usd is 0.841, gbp/usd should be 1.993x area.

Maribor 21:54 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Well, didn't noticed CADMXN printed 10,5743...however above 10,89 should be nice area to sell...

Maribor 21:33 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
AUDGBP close to turn level 0,422. Will cable fall down the cliff then as AUDUSD still have to visit 0,841?

USA BAY 21:03 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Como Perrie,

Yep, heard the sme thing too on carry trade, so could see carry trade losing more as we came to year end.

Maribor 20:59 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
GBPJPY to visit 223 area next...

Como Perrie 20:58 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
there are talks some carry trade books ready to close down lotsa before year end.

lkwd jj 20:54 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
looking at the boll bands (daily chart) seems usd is pretty streched here vs euro, chf,yen and cable.

Maribor 20:51 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Bay, I guess next turning point is around 1,927.

Syd 20:51 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
RBA December board minutes, released 0030 GMT.

Como Perrie 20:35 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Dow has important supports 12900 12700 12500, the latter maybe a target. Just wondering this might get down faster than thought.

Como Perrie 20:30 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
mini black monday I guess

USA BAY 20:23 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
MARIBOR,

Any outlook on eur/nzd pls. tia

Maribor 20:05 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
London NYAM 19:43 GMT December 17, 2007

NYAM, I don't know to do it with surgical precision(like 30 pips stop). I will stand it if it will drop again. Still expected R/R is ~200:500. However, EURAUD is maturing and heading much higher, so would not expect EURCAD holding here for long except if USDCAD is going lower. For that case I am partly short USDCAD...

London NYAM 19:58 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Caba//Looking for a drop to support at .7060-70 the whole move (five waves) from 24th july (i believe is wave 3 but breaks on .6866). I will try a long just above .7100 but with a tight stop as risk is it runs to above support then below to .382 at .7028. (that really should hold to make wave 3 scenario plausible). So i guess tentatively long but if Eur is still weak this month the lower numbers are easily achievable.

Como Perrie 19:55 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
wednesday will be a very important day to watch ref the treasury fx report.

Philadelphia Caba 19:51 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
London NYAM 19:04
nyam, your pick on eur/gbp before tom. uk numbers..?

Como Perrie 19:51 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
there are also conditions that might allow un ugly move back eurcad maybe

Como Perrie 19:48 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
however eurcad seems me might yet risk a correction back up into 1.46/1.47

Como Perrie 19:44 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
on previous BHP key large term resistance stays notch higher say at 90 - then trend might become strong with several buy signals developing onto higher.

London NYAM 19:43 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
fwiw Maribor//EURCAD looks like it will drop below 1.44 again first (probably from the CAD side which I think is heading for adip under parity.
Perhaps the golden loonie isnt cooked yet as an indicator of dollar moves. I guess we will find out tomorrow. Gnight.

Maribor 19:22 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
NZD 0,754 done, it is going up again. EURCAD excelent opportunity to long for > 1,5.

London NYAM 19:15 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Is// Then you are in a very good position. GLGT.

isr is 19:12 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
NYAM, nothing to feel sorry about...I read well your msge..My tipo ...long at 1.0125 this morning (not 2225) so I will long it overnight and see from there....
Tks...

London NYAM 19:04 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
is//My next post said i was buying between 2.00 and 2.01 (which we obviously havent reached so im still watching that one). 2.0210/25 is now upside resistance but i think it will break. 2.0132 would be a good stop. I know there are lots looking for sub 2.00 but its not so definite on my cards, but to say this is bottom is equally tough. A stop there would be logical as it would prove we are just in a corrective mode not in a reversal impulse. Sorry, i hope you didnt buy based on my observation. I was only noting the weekly t/l at that level (which it broke as you know).

Como Perrie 18:59 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
maybe good to buy BHP over the 68-76 price area. Key large resistance 86

Como Perrie 18:52 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
cut 1/2 eurcad shorts

isr is 18:45 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
NYAM, i went long GBP at 1.0225 this morning on your target that u posted....Should we run it long overnight???

The Netherlands Purk 18:15 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Thanks NY in the AM. I will keep an eye on that. When e/u falls below that line i will close the last short.

The Netherlands Purk 18:10 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
BTW Rob B, who hailed on Friday has closed his short sd/cad at 10050ish. He (and i) went short at 10241. I closed around 10160 or 50 whatever.

London NYAM 18:10 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Purk Looking at similar things managed to pick up a small lot at 1.4336 and added at 1.4377 it should stay above 1.4350 to make a good show.

The Netherlands Purk 18:02 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Interesting NYAM. I have 14460, with overshoot to 14521-41. Was being hailed this morning by the market around 14335 for a boost up to 14460. Let see. Think the rule here is that we have to close above 144 tonight.
Cheers

London NYAM 17:56 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Of course if the markey keeps doing the 'nasty' it could run up through 1.4500...

London NYAM 17:52 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
We should break through 1.44 on the second leg of this advance looking for around 1.4420-40.

Hong Kong Ahe 17:39 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
The market is paused after some strange move and the forum is extremely quiet of some strange too. Even the headline of NewYork Explosion didnt irritate any spike, though the detail said it was a chemical explosion in Manhattan, not terrorism.
It is more strange to see such comment. It is because usually explosion is caused by chemical reactions no matter by nature, or by terrorists, or by whatever... Strange day.. LOL

madrid mm 16:17 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Some interesting reading about collateralized debt obligations, or CDOs 8-)

-Dec. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Representatives of five of Wall Street's dominant investment banks gathered around a blonde wood conference table on a February night almost three years ago. Their talks over take-out Chinese food led to the perfect formula for a U.S. housing collapse.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601170&refer=special_report&sid=aA6YC1xKUoek

Van jv 15:52 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Seems nobody noticed TIC ,good for USD--more like gossip line....
Dec. 17 (Bloomberg) -- International buying of U.S. financial assets accelerated to the fastest pace in five months in October, when financial-market strains diminished as Federal Reserve policy makers lowered interest rates.

Foreign holdings of equities, notes and bonds rose a net $114 billion, after a $15.4 billion increase in September, the Treasury Department said today in Washington. The increase came as investors abroad snapped up more Treasuries than in any month in almost two years and bought the most U.S. stocks since May.

Atlanta South 15:34 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
My yr end view for E/$ 4300-25 Caps the downside & 4500-50 Caps the upside. Most probable range 4300-4500. Dec is an unpredictable as I'm sure everyone knows. All imvho. Gt to all.

HK Kevin 15:26 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Does anyone see a gap at EUR/CAD hourly chart?.

isr is 15:25 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Perrie, very interesting page on Can Resources....tks...

Hong Kong Qindex 15:13 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
USD/CAD : The market is under pressure when it is below the weekly cycle pivot center at 1.0030 - 1.0123. The downside targeting points are 0.9773 and 0.9930.


Hong Kong Qindex 02:41 GMT December 16, 2007
USD/CAD : Critical Resistance 1.0235 - 1.0300


Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (1.0030) - (1.0123)


Remarks : The market momentum is strong when it is above the weekly cycle pivot center at 1.0030 - 1.0123. The upside targeting points are 1.0286 and 1.0317. A projected supporting barrier is expected at 1.0126 // 1.0145.

Como Perrie 15:09 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
See lotsa selling odas usdcad around .9990

Como Perrie 15:02 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
mini black monday as I see

Como Perrie 15:01 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
london tpm 14:55 GMT December 17, 2007

the tone onto the equity opening is far more bearish than previously have thought. but do not want to get cought either ways...yet the dow from here might drop severely or not ...but if drops clearly later guess the carry trade might follow south very deeply...guess most watching from the sidelines as of yet...while the tone at current market levels seems offering some preoccupations at least if not some smart moves behind..

london tpm 14:55 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
any views on sterling or the Euro from here?? auction later will surely weaken the Dollar judging by the last time liquidity was pumped into the market?

Como Perrie 14:49 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Stockholm za 14:44 GMT December 17, 2007


See the following, as am looking at Canada is one of the best worldwide energy reservoires


http://www2.nrcan.gc.ca/es/es/main_e.cfm

Stockholm za 14:44 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   

Como Perrie 14:19 GMT >>
I understand you ….
"since then lotsa thing changed imvho."
None the less the market movers had
a very different "imvho " Than you,
That is why they came in and beat it down the road..
Happy trades to you .....

Como Perrie 14:42 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Canada: The same authors also stated that Canada's GDP could rise by up to 33 percent in a 20-year period given the adoption of a single currency.

Hong Kong Qindex 14:41 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
EUR/JPY : Resistant Levels at 163.12 - 163.25

Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (158.41) - (162.91)


Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is below the weekly cycle pivot center at 158.41 - 162.91. The downside targeting points are 156.32 and 157.89. A projected resistant level is located at 163.12 - 163.25 and a projected supporting level is expected at 159.18 - 159.46.

Como Perrie 14:35 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
If the amero becomes a fact (and more likely very large in time, maybe next year or two), tend to think the levels for usdcad might be much lower between .90 and .70 usdcad

Como Perrie 14:25 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
This late Paulson speaks about the new plans too.

Como Perrie 14:22 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
The idea for a North American currency union was first proposed in 1999 by Canadian economist Herbert G. Grubel.[1] A senior fellow of the Fraser Institute think-tank, he published a book entitled The Case for the Amero [2] in September 1999, the year that the euro became a virtual currency. Another Canadian think-tank, the conservative C.D. Howe Institute, advocates the creation of a shared currency between Canada and the United States.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amero

Como Perrie 14:19 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Stockholm za 14:16 GMT December 17, 2007

Those datas were related to october, since then lotsa thing changed imvho. None the less the appetite for alternative energy resources.

Como Perrie 14:17 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Dow 200ma average today 13298

Maribor 14:17 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Stockholm za 14:16 GMT December 17, 2007

No.

Stockholm za 14:16 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   


You guys are very funny!!
You are trading CAD and have not even the slightest idea what went on at 13:30 GMT. ??

Como Perrie 14:15 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
so far am mostly reduced at current as do not want to trade much in the coming days, except anything clearer. Overall usdcad might find some support around the .99 previous key level imvho b4 year end.

Como Perrie 14:14 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
yeap Maribor..quite a net reading in favour of the canadian there fwiw...

currently watching minor usdjpy sup 113.15 key 112.80

Maribor 14:11 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Perrie, you mean large speculators increased their percent of net long CAD position?

Maribor 14:08 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Chatham 13:59 GMT December 17, 2007

Reason for CADUSD strengh was that EURCAD 1,455 had to print...as EURCAD is going up again(allow ~week timeframe), you can probably hedge buying EURUSD...still I haven't given up on visiting 0,997 on USDCAD...certainly, can be wrong.

Como Perrie 14:05 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
There's also lotsa interest into Western Canadian Coal

Como Perrie 14:03 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
CFTC reports interesting figures, ref. cad.

madrid mm 14:02 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Chatham, so that was youwho moved this pair ?

8-)

I think the reason behind it is that the Montreal Canadiens won their game on saturday vs. the Toronto Maple Leafs in the NHL

8-)

Chatham 13:59 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Hello everyone. Sorry got a late start this morning. Is there a reason for CAD strength this morning (besides the fact that I am short)? TIA

Como Perrie 13:58 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Japan worth only this week to follow is the BoJ rate decision on Wednesday where the committee is expected to hold rates.

madrid mm 13:53 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
FRANKFURT, Dec 17 (Reuters) - U.S. stock index futures fell before the start of Wall Street trading on Monday with eyes on the Federal Reserve's first Term Auction Facility (TAF), a money market operation intended to ease the credit crunch.

shanghai bc 13:52 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
St. Annaland Bob 13:21 GMT December 17, 2007

Thanks..All the best..

Como Perrie 13:49 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Consider today some 20 billions will be flooded in the markets later.

shanghai bc 13:44 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
hk ab 13:16 GMT December 17, 2007

Good evening..Still expecting 770-820 range for the remainder of the year..Good trades..

Como Perrie 13:44 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
My Dow shorts targets fulfilled - time to exit shorts, at least most of if you need to stay in the market :))...Minor resitance 13320 while todays highs seen significant resistance 13350

Como Perrie 13:39 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
shanghai bc 13:36 GMT December 17, 2007

Very interesting. Thanks.

Small question then gold up too

Melbourne DC 13:39 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
shanghai bc 13:36 GMT December 17, 2007
thx . do remember you mention aud/bhp b4. if not speak to you again b4, have a wonderful Christmas and blessed New Year 2008. David.

Gen dk 13:38 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
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shanghai bc 13:36 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Melbourne DC 13:12 GMT December 17, 2007

Good evening..Re AUD,I always buy Aud and BHP shares together..In that way,I can have two bites at the cherry..BHP is in correction now...So not the time to buy AUD yet..Not sure exactly where AUD will be when BHP starts going up in coming days..Good trades..

Como Perrie 13:34 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
So far best wishes for the remaining 2007 and a yet better next year.

munich st 13:29 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
shanghai bc 13:09 GMT December 17, 2007
Thanks for your much appreciated reply bc, it should enter FF archives as an example of humbleness rarely seen in forexland.

Hong Kong Qindex 13:27 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
EUR/CHF : Critical Support at 1.6483 - 1.6505.

Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (1.6570) - (1.6689)


Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is below the weekly cycle pivot center at 1.6570 - 1.6689. The downside targeting points are 1.6450 and 1.6541. A projected resistant level has been established at 1.6684 - 1.6699. A projected supporting level is expected at 1.6483 - 1.6505.

isr is 13:26 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
madrid...many thanks for th einfo...i will ask again at the futures forum although I tell you that all they talk about there is about gold and silver...ALL DAY LONG!!!!

Gen dk 13:25 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
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St. Annaland Bob 13:21 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
shanghai bc 13:09 GMT December 17, 2007

hats off sir, you just redefined what is a human with a genuine class ... not that your call will work for sure, but your class will remain as it's nothing that money can buy.

Como Perrie 13:21 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
madrid mm 13:18 GMT December 17, 2007

nah -- you just talk about the short term smog maybe...

Maribor 13:20 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
EURCAD closed at 1,4555... now buy dips as we are going up again...

madrid mm 13:18 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Como Perrie , that s the theory ! practice always seems to be different !!! 8-(0

hk ab 13:16 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
interesting aud and nzd divergence.

bc, can we have your generous sharing on gold s/t at the moment? TIA.

Como Perrie 13:15 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
madrid mm 13:10 GMT December 17, 2007

as I see chf and jpy to have more to rise, while cad too - usd might be more complex due politics switches.

Melbourne DC 13:12 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
shanghai bc 13:09 GMT December 17, 2007
any opinion re the TAF ... thought it was pretty gd . iguess in line with your eurusd ,audusd is possible buy twd 0.8550? tia

madrid mm 13:10 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
NY Trader , one reason could be the end of the year effect, ie , thin market, low liquidity etc.... The last 2 weeks of december can be "strange"


Interest Rate Outlook for 2008

isr, did you ask the future forum ? try this as well
NYMEX natural gas

Click here!

shanghai bc 13:09 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
munich st 17:13 GMT December 16, 2007

Good evening..I was obviously wrong expecting Eur/usd 1.4850-1.4450 range for the month..We may see Eur/Usd 1.4250-1.4200 region at some point in this round..However,still expecting a range market for the remainder of the year and buying anything below Eur/usd 1.4450 and selling anything above Usd/Chf 1.15 in this round..Good trades..

Como Perrie 13:07 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
isr is 13:04 GMT December 17, 2007

been bullish there two years ago.. yet room to go imvho as next two years to me trend is yet onto up but maybe with more volatility, due uncertainties. Also big oil chiefs onto the wall street journal coupla weeks ago admitted peak oil for the first time.

gl

isr is 13:04 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
aside from FX and sorry to ask but does anyone know anything about NATURAL GAS??? Good time to invest they are telling me...

Como Perrie 13:03 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Off topic. Saturday saw a funny and interesting movie (dvd). Awarded in Berlin in the 2003.

Suggesting to give It a look.

http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=9C07E2D6133CF934A15751C0A9629C8B63

NY Trader 12:59 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Does anyone have any idea why JPY pairs are trading so divergently from equities?
I mean, equities going down, but Jpy is still relatively weak?

GL/GT

madrid mm 12:41 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Today euro/usd has all the ingedients to drive you nuts !! 8-)

Take me to 1.4450, then take me all the way down to 1.4330ish , and then take me back up to 1.440ish in the european session !!!

it is pipping time .

The Netherlands Purk 12:41 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Norway e.s 12:26 GMT December 17, 2007

You are one of the people that always make my day whatever mood.
Wish you an eternal smile on your path that helps people the way you help me.

Como Perrie 12:32 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
:) feeling criptic

The Netherlands Purk 12:30 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
First part of e/u long closed already because here at 14385 a lot have been placing longs, so it might go back to 14330…. My aim is like 14460 for the rest.

Norway e.s 12:26 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Atlanta South 01:42 GMT
Thank you very much for the anser.
All is well,(trading too)
Wish you a nice Cristmas and many good trades next year!

madrid mm 12:24 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Mumbai Navin 12:13 GMT December 17, 2007

You are a Gentleman, thank you. 8-)

Como Perrie 12:18 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
St. Annaland Bob 11:32 GMT December 17, 2007

:)) gestern habe zu viel im pub gewesen und das ist der result

Helsinki iw 12:16 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
HK [email protected]:

In countries where sweat is a problem, I suggest wearing no underwear whatsoever.

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Mumbai Navin 12:13 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
madrid mm 12:00 GMT December 17, 2007
Mumbai Navin , If I did offend you, i I humbly , sincerely and deeply apologize .

MM - pls take it easy - respect you a lot and im sure you didnt mean it.

Maribor 12:06 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
EURCAD approaching 1,455 turn level, just wonder if EURUSD will go down or USDCAD...

Gen dk 12:05 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
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madrid mm 12:00 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Mumbai Navin , If I did offend you, i I humbly , sincerely and deeply apologize .

madrid mm 11:53 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Mumbai Navin

got you
LOL

please don t be upset with me .

manila stubbs 11:53 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
madrid mm 11:52 GMT December 17, 2007

LOLROTF

Mumbai Navin 11:52 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
madrid mm 11:51 GMT December 17, 2007
there is a rumor in the market that ....

mm - care to share that pls?

madrid mm 11:52 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Gisele the top model has intervened in the FX market for the last few minutes

8-)

madrid mm 11:51 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
there is a rumor in the market that ....

madrid mm 11:42 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
isr is,

IBEX35 is probably one of the most concentrated SE in the world. For example, Telefonica represents 15.313% of the Ibex-35 index . Add in Santander, BBVA, and you have almost 33 % of the index.

Follow the 3 of them and you should have a pretty good idea of where is the index going.

8-)

St. Annaland Bob 11:32 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Perrie、会うために実際に驚く 話す日本語!

Atlanta South 11:30 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
JKt Rick
Ref:10:49/Yes 150 is possible. I just don't see it before yrs end, but early 2008 who knows. Tks for the good post & gt to you.

Como Perrie 11:28 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
年末します。たぶん円を強化し、株式市場の反発を最もに反しています。

Gen dk 11:18 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
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The Netherlands Purk 11:16 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
I am long e/u now, could not wait any longer. Stop just below the low.

HK [email protected] 11:13 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Helsinki iw 11:03 GMT December 17, 2007
Buy cotton futures.

Cotton is not the trend when it comes to women's underwear, as they prefer the synthetic more tight style which can't absorb their sweat, thus leading to vaginitis infections. So let's buy shares of those companies producing medicines to combat vaginitis. Same logic NO?

isr is 11:10 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
madrid. short everything that has to do with CHORIZOS.
Hogs are expensive and there are plenty of them all over the world (not only in the political world)...
Maybe, only COMPRA IBEX y a casa....just daily

slv sam 11:08 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Jkt Rick 10:49 /
51% chance to continue to 1.40/41
49% chance to change and visit 1.46/47! GT

Helsinki iw 11:03 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Buy cotton futures. In the same manner as people's wealth rising leads to increased demand for protein it also leads to demand for better clothing. Demand for cotton is already growing in emerging Asia, but arable land has been diverted out of cotton farming to produce food and bio-fuels.

HK [email protected] 10:54 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
If people would have been more intelligent to consume also the rice bran, a by product of rice milling, price of cereals could be kept down few percentage more, on top of that, they would have been much healthier. But what can we do if they prefer to feed it to animals. That precious great food containing more than 120 anti-oxidants.

St. Annaland Bob 10:54 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   

aMMigo, EUR1=PESETA1

madrid mm 10:52 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
St. Annaland Bob 10:45 GMT December 17, 2007

it means
-long Paella large
-long oranges from Valencia
-long Chorizo
-long iberico Ham

-Short houses
-short flats in Spain
-Short SEAT

8-)

Jkt Rick 10:49 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Jkt Rick 20:50 GMT November 27, 2007
Subject:
eur/usd 1.49
commo pierre,

1.50 is very possible, not tommorow but may after a few weeks of consolidation towards 1.43, 1.55 is also very possible, but my long term view at the end of 2008 where i think 1.50+ levels would be a memory similar to euro at 80's level. gl
jkt rick 07:23 GMT November 23, 2007
Subject:
eur 1.4920, is on the way to 1.43-1.41 so fastt no one will knew what hit them.

after this consolidation ends euro is going back to attack 1.50 are you ready

madrid mm 10:48 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
it means Invest in Spain Bobby, doesn t it ?
8-)

Dec. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Wheat rose above $10 a bushel for the first time, leading other grains and oilseeds higher in a food price spiral that threatens global economic growth.

Chicago wheat futures jumped as much as 30 cents, or 3.1 percent, to $10.095 as dry weather threatened crops in Argentina, renewing concern that the world's farmers may not be able to grow enough to meet rising demand for bread, pasta and livestock feed. Rice also advanced to a record, while soybeans gained to the highest in 34 years and corn reached a nine-month peak.

St. Annaland Bob 10:45 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
happy day ... Spain's official inflation rate stands @ 4.1% while ECB rate at 4%, what such situation means? ... tia ... happy and safe trades!

HK [email protected] 10:44 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
The idea of year end thin market activity, and stop hunts, should be carefully reviewed as huge losses may be inflicted on big players by these price moves.
I can assume they(fund managers for example) are not going to get a sleep until year end. Same for those out of the market players, currently lurkingly waiting for bargain hunting.

Brisbane Flip 10:43 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Sorry mate. While I follow the divergence from 200day MA as a reminder that something may be getting over-extended or that it had a lot further to go as when people were claiming Euro was "over-extended" at 1.40 when it was less than 4% from 200day MA. I don't think there is a standard "retracement" because ultimately everything reverts to mean that's why they call them averages -haha

Gen dk 10:40 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
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tokyo ginko 10:40 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
will close the 50% close to 1.03 levels --> look to close, but may not happen..so will keep a close watch on market

HK [email protected] 10:34 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Brisbane Flip 10:26 GMT December 17, 2007

The point I wanted to make, is looking at more or less what a lower %value from which you may get back a recoil to the 200DMA, not necessarily what is the max. deviation it may reach. I just presented a rough minimal estimation; In this case 7%.

tokyo ginko 10:31 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
close out 50% of cad short position..will close the 50% close to 1.03 levels

Gen dk 10:28 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
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Brisbane Flip 10:26 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
RF I (and a few) watch the same relationship. eur$ did eventually make it to more than 9% beyond 200day MA (much used value estimate). History suggests that's pretty much at the uppper reaches of standard for what is the most liquid of instruments. In the thinner ones (kiwi cad etc) they have overshot to 12 and 14%

Helsinki iw 10:25 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
EUR/USD heading for 1,3965/75 medium term support. Oversold, but thin mkt conditions. imho.

tokyo ginko 10:24 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
i don't get from my conputer... 8(

HK [email protected] 10:23 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
tokyo ginko 10:18 GMT December 17, 2007

Whenever I make a mistake I get a red dotted line below the word.
I thought it is courtesy of GV hehe, or maybe it is an invasion from my computer. Anyway it is new.

madrid mm 10:18 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
By observing the EURO/USD$, it may look like the USD$ is telling Gisele the TOp model "D'ya Think I'm Sexy" to use 1979's Rod Stewart nod to disco....

8-)

tokyo ginko 10:18 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
there's a spell check ?

HK [email protected] 10:14 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
K.I.S EUR/USD: If I look at the daily chart, taking the 200DMA and a trading band with 7% variance from the average, than for the last 1200 days if prices hit on the envelop or beyond it , a recoil to the 200DMA has followed. That whether hitting the upper envelop or the lower one. I don't want to place it as a golden rule as there are no such in Tech. Analysis. But it worth taking it into account. I must take also into account the raging power of the wedge resulting to targeting 1.52, which was not yet achieved, but still possible as prices are still above the upper wedge line.
So from one side we have some historical reference pointing to a possible retrace to ~1.38 of the current 200DMA.
On the other side, that wedge spanning from 2006 should not be discounted for a struggle around 1.41(current upper wedge boundary) which may come when prices reach there.

BTW that spell check on posting comments is great, thus saving us from embarrassments LOL.

tokyo ginko 10:08 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
close out remaining 10% of eur shorts here..will look for level to reenter later

tokyo ginko 10:04 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
my current short usd/jpy position, marked to market is at loss ..that is, my average cost is above the market

London NYAM 09:42 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
manila stubbs 09:16 GMT// hey there. im buying gbpusd between 2.00 and 2.01 for abounce to that area then maybe a reverse but that would depend on 'how' as well as 'if' we bounce. took out my short usdjpy but im stilll looking for a good indication we have topped.

GENEVA DS 09:30 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
hello Tokyo
yen still holding on to position with negative mark to market...

what do you mean by that ? we should consider Selling EURJPY and GBPJPY and USDJPY on rallies? thanks for claryfing...

tokyo ginko 09:25 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
c/o 90% of position eur shorts and all gbp shorts...will look for level to resell again..

yen still holding on to position with negative mark to market

Maribor 09:19 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
USD index is heading up, however, I would not expect it to rise more than additional 0,7% till year end. If that expectation is valid, it can have meaning for EURUSD, cable and others USD pairs.

manila stubbs 09:16 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
hey Nyam, hows it hangin? beautiful close last week for the pound eh? TP a little early though on some possies. any chance we get to see a nice bounce to reload? im looking at around 2.0250 area if we still get there

Frankie Bandung 08:18 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Hallo ... I'm Glad that Three Falling Peaks is already have confirmation .... in daily chat GBPUSD .... it's time for sell ...
my target is 1.9250 .... well now it's time for big profit ....
oceh .... GL/GT
And Good Bless You all....

London NYAM 08:18 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
FWIW: gbpusd bouncedon weekly support at 2.0125 july 7th 06 aug 12 07.

madrid mm 08:03 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
FWIW and maybe most seasonned traders would agree , but i think that we are now in the silly season for trading...

These are thin, illiquid markets, that can have large swings on very little volume.

Or use smaller lots... AIMHO
8-)

madrid mm 07:09 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Have a gr8 day and may the force be with you

madrid mm 07:03 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
* PBOC asks local banks to meet reserve ratio hikes in USD - DowJones.
* CICC receives $5 bln quota to invest abroad, 3 other sec firms also get quotasto invest abroad under SAFE"s QDII program - Shanghai Securities News.
* Japan EcoMin Ota - Eyeing economic impact of subprime woes, effects could beprolonged, Japan recovery still likely to continue - DowJones.
* BoE paper - Mortgage holders not struggling to make payments, house price dropwould have small effect on consumption.
* FgW poll - More than 60% of Germans want return to Deutsche Mark.
* Italy FinMin Padoa-Schioppa - EZ to bear brunt of economic downturn - FT.
* World food prices rises set to hit consumers - Financial Times.


[USD/JPY] and JPY crosses went their separate ways in Asia with the formereasing off following the rally Friday and the JPY crosses looking better bidearly as other major currencies bounced against USD. Reports of an Asian centralbank buying EUR, GBP and AUD against USD helped the crosses higher. The focuslooks to have shifted to USD moves now with JPY crosses in particular de-coupling from the stock market except late in the session. Declines in theNikkei and other indices in the region had little effect initially. USD/JPYtraded off from an early high of 113.53 to 113.02. Some trader stops are eyedbelow 113.00 and 112.70 but the talk is of bids from a variety of playerstrailing down from the 112-highs to as low as the 109-handle. Buyers includeJapanese importers, margin players, retail and institutional investors andoffshore players caught long JPY. Offers are seen ahead of 113.60 but stops arenoted above. [EUR/JPY] traded up from 162.94 to 163.55 and [GBP/JPY] from 228.05to 228.70 before easing off.

[EUR/USD] opened in Asia at 1.4420 and immediately headed down to take out stopsbelow 1.4400. The German survey showing 60% would like to see a return to theDeutsche mark provided the catalyst for the move. A low of 1.4482 was seen
before bids returned. It glided higher later amid talk of an Asian central bankselling USD against a number of currencies including EUR. The A high of 1.4450was seen before it eased back. Offers remain up to 1.4460 but stops are seenabove. More offers are eyed ahead of 1.4500 with stops above here too.

[GBP/USD] opened in Asia at 2.0170 after the USD climbed against the field onFriday on year-end repatriation flows and a hawkish shift in Fed expectations inthe wake of stronger than expected US CPI data.

[USD/CHF] remained very much bid after the rally Friday, extending gains to1.1570 before pushing back down to 1.1518. [EUR/CHF] consolidated losses Fridaybetween 1.6608-54.


[The Nikkei] traded weak all day, trading down from an early high of 15,508.50to 15,219.07 and closing just off the lows at 15,249.79, down 264.72 points or1.71% on the day. [TOPIX] closed at 1472.70, down 28.55 or 1.9%. Other boursesin the region were mostly lower as well with the All Ords, Hang Seng and KOSPIespecially hit hard.

[JGBs] and [Euroyen] were better bid after early weakness on the back of stockmarket weakness. The yield on the benchmark 10-year JGBs closed at 1.545%,unchanged from Friday. The range was 1.545-1.575%.

madrid mm 06:50 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
hello and GM FX Jedi

-Trading requires a lot of dedication and commitment and learning to cope with losses.

8-)

Mumbai NS 06:34 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
YH when eurgbp is offish and euro is on the offer u will always see that gbp will be a laggard till such time as eurgbp does not base out and when eurgbp does base out and the view remains same gbp covers the double distance in half time .....as of now 2.0130-40 areas is a very gud support coinciding with 200 sma also so either keep buying with a stop below that or else standaside wait for eurgbp to bottom then if cbl remains a sell sell it with gud amts ...hope i am clear gud luck gl gt

Hong Kong YH 06:30 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Mumbai NS 06:25 GMT December 17, 2007
EUR/GBP is testing lower and lower, so you mean this is what GBP stay firm? Sorry I don't understand.

Mumbai NS 06:25 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
YH look at eurgbp the answer lies there it is soft gl gt

cairo 06:24 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
please what about gbp/jpy

Hong Kong YH 06:20 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
May I know how come all currencies are down except GBP? GBP seem very strong if compared with others...

Hong Kong Qindex 04:21 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
EUR/GBP : Support at 0.7014 - 0.7017


Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (0.7113) - (0.7169)

Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is trading below the weekly cycle pivot center at 0.7113 - 0.7169. The downside targeting points are 0.7052 and 0.7098. A projected resistant level is positioning at 0.7229 - 0.7236.

Hong Kong Qindex 03:15 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
GBP/CHF: Resistance at 2.3370 - 2.3387


Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (2.3164) - (2.3293)


Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is trading below the weekly cycle pivot center at 2.3164 - 2.3293. The downside targeting points are 2.2596 and 2.2851. A projected resistant level has been established at 2.3370 - 2.3387.

Hong Kong Qindex 03:03 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
GBP/AUD : Critical Resistance 2.3887 - 2.3893

Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (2.3259) - (2.3793)


Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is below the weekly cycle pivot center at 2.3259 - 2.3793. The downside targeting points are 2.2882 and 2.3126. A critical supporting barrier is expected at 2.2506 - 2.2570.

Atlanta South 01:44 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
JKt Rick
{Ref 19:31}You have got to be kidding????

Atlanta South 01:42 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Norway es
{Ref 22:25}I would expect more downside for E/$ with 4300-25 holding for yr end. As for $/Y...... no call for that pair. I closed all positions severals weeks back & I am finished for the year. You are correct....one day its 150 the next its 140
& so on & so on. The lags some use have just started to turn
for the E/$. I hope all is well with you & your family. Gt

Syd 01:18 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
Near Term Upside Potential, but a Big Decline Awaits
http://www.dailyfx.com/story/topheadline/Near_Term_Upside_Potential
__but_1197666556222.html

isr jweb 01:08 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
thanks

Syd 01:05 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
isr jweb 01:02 GMT just watching to how today goes ... probably more upside for USD this week though , looking for aud to top out around 87 early in the week good luck

isr jweb 01:02 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
syd, any of your views on the direction of the market?

Syd 00:36 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
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The total number of houses and apartments that started construction in Australia in the September quarter of 2007 rose 1.3% to a seasonally adjusted 37,647 from the second quarter

Norway e.s 00:06 GMT December 17, 2007 Reply   
To me fryday mowe look a litle suspises,
usd/jpy go agenst stoks
xau/usd and usd/cad dont do much,whail eur/usd and gbp/usd fell much.
Marked is wery thinn?
Any vew?

 




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