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Forex Forum Archive for 12/20/2007

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jkt-aye 23:17 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
jkt-aye 15:24 GMT December 20, 2007
long gbpusd here at 1.9820 stp 1.9790 tgt open for now.
am i a hercules trying to stop the train ? ... let see :)
==================

secure "the green field" !! move stp to +1 pip only.
tgt set at 1.9870 for half pos, and 1.9920 for the rest.
gtgl

Syd 23:02 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   

First-time buyers set to rescue house prices

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/12/20/bcnrics120.xml

Atlanta South 22:55 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
EUR/USD....Althought I'm not trading @ this time, still following the moves & it appears 4320-25 is capping the downside for now, but should that zone give 4200 could very well be seen before yrs end. IMVHO as always. Gt to all.

lkwd jj 22:26 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
if the drop in both e/y and g/y are being caused by the drop in cable and euro (as gbp and euro sold vs yen as well as usd,) will that cause $Y to rise as who want to hold yens, especially with weekend followed by holiday a day later? imho think $Y will attempy a run @ 100ma as is above the 50 already.114+ soon. the low level of liquidity may help. any sense here?

Syd 21:53 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
New Zealand's economy expanded at a slightly quicker pace than expected in the third quarter but growth lagged the second quarter as household consumption continued to ease, official data released Friday show. Statistics New Zealand said seasonally-adjusted, production-based gross domestic product grew 0.5% on the quarter in the three months ended Sept. 30, compared with the revised 0.8% growth recorded in the second quarter. The statistics bureau said GDP grew 3.3% on the year in the third quarter, compared with 3.2% expected by economists and the second quarter's 3.2% growth.
Service industries continued to underpin growth, the bureau said, rising 0.7%. Finance, insurance, property and business services, as well as transport and communication industries, accounted for over half of the quarter's increase.
Goods-producing industries saw a contraction, down 1.4% from a flat result in the second quarter, but primary industries recorded a 3.9% rise due mainly to production beginning at the Tui oil field, after rising a revised 1.1% in the second quarter. Growth in household expenditure continued to ease, posting a 0.3% rise, below the 0.5% rise recorded in the previous quarter. Domestic spending was up just 0.2% following three previous quarters of strong growth, Statistics New Zealand said. Annual average GDP in the 12 months to Sept. 30 grew 2.7% compared with 2.1% in the 12 months ended June and 1.6% posted in the third quarter of 2006.

Economists had forecast average annual GDP growth of 2.7%.

USA BAY 21:48 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
NZ ECON: Q3 GDP 0.5% Last 0.7%, median forecast 0.3%

GVI john 21:38 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
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dc CB 21:00 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
keep thinking I hear reindeer bells.

bilbao pedro 20:21 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
AI, quite right, I told you yesterday....
I just took my profits at 224.17 from yesterdays sale at 227.1 on GBPJPY!!!!
good way to finish up!!!

Mtl JP 19:10 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
IF only I could cry for the bankers who actualy prefer to park their hoard of cash in T-Bills even IF it means a net negative return then to loan it out ! But it screams about the massive turn in degree of lack of trust in each other. From a link yesterday on "the other side":

MORTGAGE MELTDOWN
Interest rate 'freeze' - the real story is fraud
Bankers pay lip service to families while scurrying to avert suits, prison ?
(sfgate)

"... At stake is nothing short of the continued existence of the U.S. banking system...."

And maybe as if a x-mass gift, earlier this am saw I this headline on AFX (to subscribe, send an EMAIL to Jay):

FDIC proposes bank failure rule changes

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. has proposed rule changes on determining which bank depositors are eligible for up to $100,000 per person in FDIC insurance if a bank fails. .. The FDIC's proposed rules would apply to 159 institutions with $2 billion or more in U.S. deposits, more than 250,000 deposit accounts or total assets of more than $20 billion. ... What prompted changing the rules was industrywide consolidation of many regional banks into larger national players earlier this decade, some with more than $1 trillion in assets, Barr said.
Bank of America Corp. JPMorgan Chase & Co., Citigroup Inc., Wachovia Corp. and Wells Fargo & Co. are the largest U.S. banks by assets, according to FDIC statistics.
In addition, the FDIC is proposing a uniform set of rules that all banks would use to calculate the amount of a bank balance on the day of a failure. ... The FDIC said it "places a high priority on providing access to insured deposits promptly" and said most depositors typically have access to deposits by the next business day after a bank fails.

ya, right. Trust in God = trust at risk of thy' deposits peril.

isr jweb 18:57 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Atlanta South 16:52 GMT December 20, 2007 = thanks

St. Pete Islander 17:56 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Mtl JP 17:32 / That, JP, is an extremely good question. Or, is it window dressing for the end of the year reports. He who laughs last .....? gt

dc CB 17:50 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Bloomberg is doing a series, on their Special Report page, some behind the scenes stories.

FAUSTIAN BARGAIN: The Subprime Meltdown
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=specialreport

Mtl JP 17:32 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
dc CB 17:12 / Sounds like they (Ken Zerbe and Peter Plaut types) had and maybe still do not have an understanding of the meaning of the word due in due diligence. Is it really fraud when one whore "rips off" another whore or is it just level playing field ?

dc CB 17:12 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
from a Bloomberg story:

"We are shocked management withheld this information for as long as it did,'' Ken Zerbe, an analyst with Morgan Stanley in New York, wrote in a report yesterday. "MBIA simply did not disclose arguably the riskiest parts of its CDO portfolio to investors.'' "How is confidence expected to return to the capital markets when these types of surprises continue to pop up?'' said Peter Plaut, an analyst at New York-based hedge fund manager Sanno Point Capital Management"...

Hong Kong Qindex 17:07 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
CAD/CHF : The high is around 1.1627.


Hong Kong Qindex 13:30 GMT December 18, 2007
CAD/CHF : Resistant Point 1.1621

Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (1.1181) - (1.1362) 


Remarks : The market momentum is strong when it is trading above the weekly cycle pivot center at 1.1181 - 1.1362. The upside targeting points are 1.1560 and 1.1625. A projected resistant level is positioning at 1.1621.

Hong Kong Qindex 17:04 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
GBP/CAD : Speculative selling pressure will increase when 1.9753 fails to hold.


Hong Kong Qindex 11:41 GMT December 18, 2007
GBP/CAD :  Resistance at 2.0540 - 2.0567


Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (2.0249) - (2.0468)


Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is trading below 2.0249. The downside targeting points are 1.9937 and 2.0135. A projected resistant level is expected at 2.0540 - 2.0567.

Hong Kong Qindex 16:59 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
EUR/CAD : Projected supporting levels are 1.4135, 1.4181 and 1.4242.


Hong Kong Qindex 01:43 GMT December 18, 2007
EUR/CAD : Resistance at 1.4580


Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (1.4611) - (1.4816)


Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is below the weekly cycle pivot center at 1.4611 - 1.4816. The downside targeting points are 1.4191 and 1.4399. A projected supporting level is located at 1.4125 - 1.4135.

madrid mm 16:53 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Canada NN 16:31 GMT December 20, 2007
I want to know what is going on.

That i one of the few questions i ask myself everyday ..
8-)

I am confused most of the time

lol

Atlanta South 16:52 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
isr jweb
Ref 16:35/I have not traded in about three wks as I closed all positions for the yr, but I would be short until the 9940-50 zone. That is about all I can see @ this time. Not trading advice, but just MVHO. Gt

Maribor 16:46 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Canada NN 16:36 GMT December 20, 2007

Is is not only CAD, it is also JPY and NZD(a little). To survive(not to mention make money), you must tune your reasoning and expectations with market reality. Until you archive that, do mini.

USDCAD going to 0,97 in my analysis.

Hong Kong Qindex 16:38 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
GBP/USD : The market is under pressure when it is below 1.9857. I have a feeling that the downward pressure will be strong enough to penetrate through 1.9763 and it will head for 1.9612.

Canada NN 16:36 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Besids, I want to know how come the others down when USD rebound, but only CAD can up? Please.

isr jweb 16:35 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
atlanta, ok, where is usd/cad going now? any clear idea, its important to me. thanx.

Atlanta South 16:32 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
In defense of USA Zeus's call on the $/CAD........I was very short on that trade even after Zeus said he was long......bottom line, he stuck to his trade method & I stuck to mine. This time I won & he didn't & that is the nature of this business. Winners, losers & thats it. Zero sum. Gt

Canada NN 16:31 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Maribor 16:30 GMT December 20, 2007
Anyway, thank you so much. Other sisters and brothers. If you don't mind, please comment on GBP. I want to know what is going on.

Maribor 16:30 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Canada NN 16:21 GMT December 20, 2007

I do not think risk/reward to short cable is good at present levels. May be wrong.

Maribor 16:22 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
jweb, not clear. Will make analysis later.

Canada NN 16:21 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Maribor 16:14 GMT December 20, 2007
Thanks for your reply. But other people said GBP will test 1.9650 soon and will not back to 2.00. I am finding a entry pt to short GBP.

hong kong nt 16:21 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
USA Zeus 14:00 GMT December 20, 2007

No one here may forget your numerous recommendations to buy USD/CAD from 1.10 to 0.90..

isr jweb 16:19 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
maribor, your view on eur/usd?

Maribor 16:14 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Canada NN 15:52 GMT December 20, 2007

Cable fell enough(but buy orders may wait till tomorrow)...GBPJPY is close...GBPCHF has long way to go...

Van jv 16:06 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Dec. 20 (Bloomberg) -- The index of leading economic indicators fell for the third time in four months in November, signaling an increasing risk of a U.S. recession..............

Hong Kong Qindex 15:55 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
GBP/JPY : Projected barriers are located at 221.44, 222.58, 223.13 and 113.58.



Hong Kong Qindex 16:26 GMT December 16, 2007
GBP/JPY : Critical Supports 219.70 - 220.78


Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (222.79) - (231.18)


Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is below the weekly cycle pivot center at 222.79 - 231.18. Speculative selling pressure will increase when the downward trending momentum is strong enough to penetrate through the critical supporting levels at 219.70 - 220.78. The downside targeting points are 218.70 and 224.20. A projected resistant level is positioning at 230.38 - 230.69.

Canada NN 15:52 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
All currencies up except GBP...what the...no need drop that fast

Makassar Alimin 15:43 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
cable could see 1.9650 before bounce IMHO

HK Kevin 15:42 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Hong Kong Ahe 15:29 GMT, thank you for your help. Loss is always a painful experience, but I can managed this 40 pips loss.

madrid mm 15:40 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   

Some (pretty useless info ?!?! )

Did anyone notice that Cable is getting reasonably close to where it started the year?

It still looks set for a USD down year against the majors as a whole though....

8-)

Hong Kong Ahe 15:29 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Sofia Kaprikorn 15:28 GMT, Hi Kaprikorn and kevin, yes I mean GBPJPY for 221/220. Now it is 223.93.

Sofia Kaprikorn 15:28 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Hong Kong Ahe //
I know you meant 221/220 G/J..
regards for ur help on position trading - seems it helps..

USA Zeus 15:27 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Atlant South 14:27 GMT December 20, 2007
Yes sir and thank you. Ultimately tried to leave it as such which is all that matters in the end-

USA Zeus 06:26 GMT November 30, 2007
Prefer to let the trades speak for themselves as EUR/USD and GBP/USD drop many (more) figures.
____________________________________________________

Will take a 1/4 off at 1.9777 then hold remaining 1/4 at b/e from the top for a shot at a grand super cycle 30-100 figures.

Zeus signing off. Farewell friends.
Many GT's and Happy Holidays!

Hong Kong Ahe 15:26 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
HK Kevin 15:10 GMT - Hi Kevin, GBP drop is leading due to UK CB 9-0 vote for rate cut. The sentiment of Rate cut is still on air. Be careful to long GBP for counter-trade. Better wait GBPJPY reaching 231/230 to long GBPUSD, if. GLGT.

jkt-aye 15:24 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
long gbpusd here at 1.9820 stp 1.9790 tgt open for now.
am i a hercules trying to stop the train ? ... let see :)

Van jv 15:20 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
LEI?

Sofia Kaprikorn 15:18 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
out of EURJPY short at 161.80 - for 64 pips

Sofia Kaprikorn 15:16 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
out of GBPJPY short at 224.12 - for 142 pips

St. Annaland Bob 15:14 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
maybe it's not well timed idea as 20DMA is just about to cross down the 40DMA ... but still, happy trades!

warsaw TOMi 15:13 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Bob, just dont even think about it..

St. Annaland Bob 15:12 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
say s/l below 19600 for 20800 ... start buying 19820 area ... hhhmmm???

St. Annaland Bob 15:11 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
does risking 250 pips with cable for 1K pips up is too risky? ;-)

HK Kevin 15:10 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Burnt by fire with long Cable 1.9878 stop out at 1.9841

Sofia Kaprikorn 15:06 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
gbpjpy must drag the USDJPY which is so resilient all this week.. and they other carrys along the way..

this the major thing - the decoupling of carry and stox as they make their Xmas rally..

madrid mm 15:00 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Sofia Kaprikorn

I think you are in love with Citifx
8-)

love is in the air
everywhere i look around

La lalalalala

Sofia Kaprikorn 14:54 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Hong Kong YH ....
if you study the charts you will see once GBPUSD starts moving out of consolidation it easily makes 400/500 pips in a day or two..

you really work in citifx?

Sofia Kaprikorn 14:52 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
GBPJPY leading the pack..

Hong Kong YH 14:52 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
May I know what happen to GBP? Already drop more than 400 pips in 2 days, Is it oversold?

Stockholm za 14:37 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   

See You guys trying hard to peg the FF.
Soon it will be lock down on Q….
We have the GV awards coming soon …

Amman wfakhoury 14:31 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Amman wfakhoury 13:11 GMT December 20, 2007
20 spicy pips if you short eur.usd now..short another if rise.
14355.


====
sold another at 14364 exited bothe 14336

madrid mm 14:27 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Como, indeed a real roller coaster this euro/usd so far the last few days...

Like the Russian Mountains ...yipiiiiiiiiiii
UP.....MORE UP.....DOWN.....MORE DOWN.....UP AGAIN....AND UP....AND WOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH DOWN

Call me Senor Pipping !!!! 8-)

Atlant South 14:27 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
USA Zeus
Good point ref fair & balanced. Now let the good times roll.
Gbp/$.......... down, down & down. Good call.

tokyo ginko 14:23 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
This is a forum and not a sanctuary, so there is no need for confession.

In trading , either u make or you lose. simple.

As for Sofia Kaprikorn 13:30 GMT December 20, 2007
Flip 12:45 //
hi - you will laugh a lot on this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ_qK4g6ntM

===> Hilarious! Thank you!



madrid mm 14:22 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
For all the TECHIES in this forum Click here!

My 2 cents that a Chinese or an Indian bank might buy into Bears Stearn pretty soon after its first loss ever as a public Co.

8-)

USA Skeptic 14:16 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Mt true confession is I bot $CAD at .9064 and sold and went short at 1.0247 and also sold EUR$ at 14958 and am still short not to mention buying $CHF at 1.0890 still long.

Let the good times roll

USA Zeus 14:15 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
austin mw 14:02 GMT December 20, 2007

I think it is important since BC spent a considerable amount of time and space "innocently" misrepresenting my system even to the extent of trying to selectively select posts out of context to illustrate loss that day that took place from some several months back. It is fair to be truthful and balanced.

madrid mm 14:08 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
So , Chinese banks are investing in foreign banks, Indian companies are buying british carmakers, and now ....

Taj Mahal Won't Accept Bush Dollars as India Laments Lost Value

Click here!

Next on the shopping list , UBS, BBVA, Renault, (maybe not Seat) ....

And the Eiffel tower will accept only Ruppee and YUAN

LOL What a wonderful world (Louis Armstrong)

isr jweb 14:07 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
guys, i have a confession to make here.. while you were all buying gbp, from september i was selling it, and at times was close to a break down because of all the noise i was hearing about 2.2 the only one that was backing me then and not telling me to cut was zeus, so i owe him that one. thank g-d i waited and i am clear..

On the other hand you all were right, because what i was doing was completely wrong, it just turned out that i had enough leverage and didnt oversell..

So thank YOU ALL!

Denver AL 14:06 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
as a point of reference re Leeson and more money. in reality more money would not have sorted him out as his real position that killed him was not in the Nikkei although that was susbtantial but he was short in JGBs in a multi week triangle breakout that was moving to the the upside off a very substantial low point (ie high in yield). the mistake was not the nikkei nor even the fraud he perpetuated via the false faxes but the major error of not understand the bond market and its relationships vs other assets

austin mw 14:02 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
USA Zeus 14:00 GMT December 20, 2007
Zeus, the trade worked good for you so can we move on
plz?

madrid mm 14:02 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Thank you all for your help. Everything sorted.

You will be all relieved to know that due to one rate spike that occurred on my FXTrade system, adjustments were completed to roll back transactions caused by the spikes.



phewwwwwwwww i thought i lost Zillions of Euros for a sec ...

8-)

USA Zeus 14:00 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Alaska Moon 21:32 GMT November 29, 2007
A "large" drawdown might be different with different traders.
Some traders might think a minus $1,000 is "large"...Some traders might think a "large" minus might be 10 times that amouint. 100 times that amount, 1000 or more times that amount.
I guess it is all in the mind of the trader.
I don't trade building positions like Zeus does, as I think of that as adding to a losing trade. For me..that is the same as moving my stop.
Having said that, I would bet that Zeus is a heck of a lot more
sucessful at trading as I am !!!
Maybe my attitude in caused by almost getting a margin call trading against the trend, and in the end I lost $3,200 .
Now that probably is not much loss for some traders, but was
40% of my account at the time.
What I am saying is...we are all different and trade different..
All this IMHO...
Moon



shanghai bc 01:51 GMT November 30, 2007
Alaska Moon 21:32 GMT November 29, 2007

A good point..Seriously,Nick Leeson could have made more than a billion Dollars if and only if his bank had another billion when he was adding to his lossers all the way down..Alas,that poor bank was not the Old Lady..Index he was buying all the way down with all the money the bank had, bounced a big way after the demise of that poor bank..It is like Napoleon could have won in Waterloo if and only if he had another fresh ten legions waiting on the flank..Trading is the art of the possible and it is the right strategies at the right time that counts even for a bank or Napoleon too..Then,the Mongolian central bank went bakrupt using Nick Leeson strategy too:)
____________________________________________________
BC-
Well now. It would seem that it would have been the Leeson types buying GBP/USD and "...adding to his lossers all the way down..." not the position builders who took advantage of it.

Just another failed attempt of "making an example out of Zeus" at the exact wrong time.

Cheers!

Atlanta South 13:58 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
madrid mm
sorry......I DID NOT SEE THE SPIKE.

isr jweb 13:57 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
madrid - i cant see it on my chart not at my broker at all

madrid mm 13:55 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Ok i am talkingto them now. It is being looked at.

Sorry as it was off topic


Thnaks again

8-)

madrid mm 13:54 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Atlanta south ,

you did ?



austin + tomi thx

Atlanta south 13:46 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
madrid mm
Using two brokers & two charting programs I did see that spike. Gt

warsaw TOMi 13:44 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
madrid mm 13:38 GMT December 20, 2007

cover them shorts if they gave it to ya. maybe xmas bonus from yr broker?
anyway eurusd seems to be heading this way up..

austin mw 13:41 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
madrid mm 13:38 GMT December 20, 2007
get your money back no spike on my end or bloomberg

Atlanta South 13:41 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Any views on the e/$? Seems 4300 held this time, but what next? IMVHO 4500-4300 should hold until end of 2007. Views welcomed & gt to all.

Brisbane Flip 13:40 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
I had seen it but well worth a revisit Kaprikorn.
So well explained it's scary entertainment :)

madrid mm 13:38 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
strange.....it took my orders though ...

So could you just confirm to me the euro/usd did not go all the way to 1.4394 ?

My platform and graphs shows HIGH of 1.4394 on EURO/USD @ 14h19 Madrid time, which is 13h19 GMT....

I just want a confirmation sorry to be a pain i..

I thank those who will reply in advance.

madrid mm 13:31 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Hasselt Red

thx

Sofia Kaprikorn 13:30 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Flip 12:45 //
hi - you will laugh a lot on this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ_qK4g6ntM

Amman wfakhoury 13:28 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
USA Skeptic 13:18 GMT December 20, 2007
Beware of spicy pips, they could lead to sever indigestion later on.

=====
then just take small quantity..such as 6-10 pips only.

Hasselt Red 13:27 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
no spike here mm

madrid mm 13:25 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
I don t know about you but my platform , o*a*n* .... just had a spike on euro/usd that seems a bit strange from 1.4351 to 1.4395...

Anybody got else got it ?? Thanks for feedback

USA Skeptic 13:18 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Beware of spicy pips, they could lead to sever indigestion later on.

Amman wfakhoury 13:11 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
20 spicy pips if you short eur.usd now..short another if rise.
14355.

warsaw TOMi 13:09 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
short swissy spicy collected 11566 for +22, just some spare change for xmas eve diner..

gl/gt

HK Kevin 13:08 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Manchester SA 11:37 GMT, may be I am the minority who paly with fire in this forum and went long Cable at 1.9878 earlier. My long position from 1.9938 yesterday was stop at b/e today.

Como Perrie 13:06 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
pretty surgical year end or at least of the next coupla days holidays...earlier has been seemingly some carry trade pfolio reduction going on, but activity limited overall.. interesting sink strenght cad too around, It gets some from anywhere there apparently.....all bit strange lower liquidity as It gets into GDP for which we know already how It went Q3..Q4 will be interesting next year to watch.. bibi

Makassar Alimin 12:52 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Zeus, what is the forward looking saying from hereon, say until end of first Q1 of 2008? TIA

GVI john 12:44 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
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USA Zeus 12:42 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
manila stubbs 12:35 GMT December 20, 2007

Thanks Stubbs! Hang in there. Sometimes it can be frustrating with all the backlash and jeering on this forum when one has a forward vs backward view but then again, when the mASSes of bashers scream the loudest i.e. Nov 30 the market will cause the most pain to greatest number of traders. -Zeus's Paradox.

Sticking to discipline and not listening to others to sway your views is the only way to make it work IMVHO.



Happy Day!

manila stubbs 12:35 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
as is usual in my case, i got scared and jumped the gun too early, taking profit of my gbp shorts at the 200day ma. and painfully, i havent reshorted since. a big applause to those like almighty Zeus who stuck with their guts and made a killing.

USA Zeus 12:28 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
pittsburgh pa 12:21 GMT December 20, 2007

Honestly don't know where it will be later today or tomorrow. I just trade the trend.

Cheers!

USA Zeus 12:22 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
USA Zeus 16:07 GMT December 5, 2007
Subject:
Will cover first slice of GBP/USD just below 2.0000 after final short entry at 2.1112 as posted.
___________________________________________________

Well yes. Started some already as promised for massive giant teflon balls gains.


pittsburgh pa 12:21 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
USA Zeus 12:03 GMT December 20, 2007

Where could we see the eur/usd today?

Amman wfakhoury 12:17 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Amman wfakhoury 08:27 GMT December 20, 2007
Amman wfakhoury 07:22 GMT December 20, 2007
GBP/USD
======

Sell if breaks level 19950 tp 19880.
Buy if breaks level 20000 tp 20130.

break should be confirmed by closing 3 bars 5 mins chart.

price will be in vibrate pattern up..down..up ..down.
it is already confirmed to down.

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exited @ tp1 19880.
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pld check the following vibrations...

19950---19880
19880---19940
19940---19870

Sofia Kaprikorn 12:05 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
1119 GMT [Dow Jones] The carry trades continue to de-couple from equities, notes a UK-based bank trader. European equity bourses are +0.5% on the day and the futures are calling for a slight positive open for the DJIA and Nasdaq. However, EUR/JPY is trading at the day's low of 162.00 while EUR/CHF is just off the 1.6577 low at 1.6583

USA Zeus 12:03 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Will be exciting to see how my friend BC shares my trading strategy when GBP/USD hits 1.9777!

Hasselt Red 11:53 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Manchester SA 11:37 GMT December 20

i might with gbpusd, got oversold indications on daily and 2 oscillators about to diverge on 1hr. waiting for indicators to take effect together with TD trendlines but dont think it's the end of a retracement. Upside momentum going to be temporary for a further decline in my opinion... gt

Sofia Kaprikorn 11:40 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
man - just make sure you know what you do as I post here to get feedback from those generous pro's that are willing to share their guidance - my posts are purely an attempt to educate myself thru analysis

St. Annaland Bob 11:38 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Como Perrie 11:36 GMT December 20, 2007

one thing for sure if it will happen, AMERO notes will have less languages on it than the EURO notes ;-)

Manchester SA 11:37 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
I don't suppose anyone ready to long Cable?
Or perhaps The Beast?
Maybe even The Euro?
Watch to see how they fly this afternoon.....................

Como Perrie 11:36 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
xmas amero on the making

isr jweb 11:31 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
kspikorn - i am grateful for that wonderful post on eur/gpy. THANKS!

Mumbai NS 11:29 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Bob ......ok got it now so u are selling strangles ...sounds interesting gud trades mate gl gt

Sofia Kaprikorn 11:27 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
EURUSD daily - price is trading below the recent lows 1.4329/24 - this has a immediate target of below 1.42 (1.4125 - Oct 22 low)..

GBPUSD Daily -- I can see the Sept 18 Low = 1.9878 --
then the Aug lows ~1.9650 / 1.9742 which held and Cable bounced off the 200 dma there..
----
certainly timing of reaching those targets is not my strength..

St. Annaland Bob 11:25 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Mumbai NS 11:19 GMT December 20, 2007

please don't take it as analysis, just my view ... it's not per quarter, per the whole year ... to state the obvious, being right 1 out of 4 with 1 year option call/put 2K pips away from market will pay at least 1 to 5, I hope you get my options trading idea ... anyway, time will say and show what is the reality to be ... best trades!

Mumbai NS 11:19 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Bob/ BC is the ultimate master none of us can match that lvl as it comes with enormous experience .......btw 1 2 3 4 in ur analysis are q1 q2 .....if my understanding is rite.

A medium term outlook for me is a cap atm at 1.4570 with a downside probe for 1.4080 followed by 1.3850 and on a slighly longer frame see it on other side of 1.30 before i start getting bearish on the usd again. gud trades gl gt

warsaw TOMi 11:14 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
ok, took a chance on top picker ,shorted swissy 11588 for a spicy.. ;)
gl/gt

St. Annaland Bob 11:12 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
NS// to finalize my view, I must add quote/pearl out of BC's kitchen ... generally, your sensors and analysis will know how to handle further developments, I think so :-) ... and, may you share you midterm view?


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shanghai bc 13:27 GMT November 16, 2007

Thanks..It was just a fluke..As a kid many decades ago,I was trained not to establish a position without hedging..Just a simple spot and option combination or an option combination to make sure the worst case is known in advance..The best case,we are at the mercy of the Lady Luck:)
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madrid mm 11:04 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
where is Gisele ? @#%#$^$&%^%&/%& ·$%· ·$

8-=)

St. Annaland Bob 11:02 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
NS// bit old, but still my view


St. Annaland Bob 20:24 GMT October 3, 2007


2007:
1.2xx 1.3xx 1.4xx (close @ 1.3xx or 1.4xx)

2008:
[1] 1.1xx 1.2xx 1.3xx
[2] 1.2xx 1.3xx 1.4xx
[3] 1.3xx 1.4xx 1.5xx
[4] 1.4xx 1.5xx 1.6xx

madrid mm 11:00 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Dec. 20 (Bloomberg) -- New Zealand's North Island was struck by its biggest earthquake in at least 20 years, measuring 6.8 on the Richter scale, the country's seismological monitor said.

The temblor hit today at 8:55 p.m. local time, about 50 kilometers (30 miles) southeast of Gisborne and 400 kilometers southeast of Auckland, the agency, GeoNet, said on its Web site. GeoNet was set up by GNS Science, a state-owned research group, and the government's Earthquake Commission. The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center issued no warnings of a potential tsunami.

``It seemed that we were in a house of cards,'' Paul Fenwick, landlord of the Te Kura Bed and Breakfast in Gisborne, said in a telephone interview. ``I felt sure it was going to fall down any minute.''

Mumbai NS 10:59 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Bob what is ur view on euro slightly medium term outlook if possible pls and ty in advance gl gt

St. Annaland Bob 10:57 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Mumbai NS 10:44 GMT December 20, 2007

that's true ... India has it's own ways to make businessmen to be successful or not, if me goes real estate in India then building the entry door to the right direction will ensure very reasonable profit ;-) ... yes, knowledge of the Indian culture is a must to enjoy the way to become 2nd largest economy of Asia (still in our lifetime) ... happy trades!

Mumbai NS 10:57 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
1.4320 under the scanner will it won't it ......if i ask someone like Zeus it will shall be the reply and if i ask the queen silence will be the reply ....i am eagerly waiting hmmm gl gt

Sofia Kaprikorn 10:56 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Deepak - I suppose Chinese culture and state can also be counted for its 5000 years of history from Shang Dynasty to modern whatever they name it..

Mumbai Deepak 10:51 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Mumbai NS 10:44 / Well Said! Afterall, we are the only civilization which is continuing in its original form still in last 1000 years. However, that’s for Political Forum!

Mumbai NS 10:44 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Bob hi had he been alive he wuld have said ahinsa parmo dharma which loosely translated means non-violence is the biggest religion......after all these are peaceful bids won by indians so regularly these days gud trades gl gt

Sofia Kaprikorn 10:41 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
added minor shorts:
E/J - 162.28
G/J - 225.12

St. Annaland Bob 10:40 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
happy day! ... truly wonder what Mahatma Gandhi had to say about such kind of Indian takeover ... happy trades!

Hasselt Red 10:30 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
never mind , trades went well...

madrid mm 10:17 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
China Raises Interest Rates to Nine-Year High to Cool Inflation

By Nipa Piboontanasawat and Li Yanping

Dec. 20 (Bloomberg) -- China raised interest rates for a sixth time this year to cool decade-high inflation in the world's fastest-growing major economy.

The benchmark one-year lending rate will increase to 7.47 percent, a nine-year high, from 7.29 percent, starting tomorrow, the People's Bank of China said today on its Web site. The one- year deposit rate will rise to 4.14 percent from 3.87 percent.

Hasselt Red 09:55 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
can somebody give me an opinion on the eurusd and gbpusd in the short term ...thnx

Gen dk 09:43 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
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Pecs Andras 09:35 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
GDP q/q (r) 0.7%

Current Account -20.0B

Amman wfakhoury 09:30 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
gbp.usd
short now b4 data..and short another if rise

Sofia Kaprikorn 09:18 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
NS .....
I got ur point -- I was watching the daily charts and tried to differentiate when those major MAs act as pivot (price rotating around) - when as support and when we can have a signal of a breach..

what I can say for myself is that price has to bounce off the MA and then come back with momentum to breach it -- this is my reasoning in E/J with 200 dma & G/J with 20 dma..
there I see powerful moves that went off Support (measured by those MAs) - stretched to a Resistance level and with the idea of reverting to the mean those prices will now have enough momentum to lower just like rubbers...

Gen dk 09:05 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
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Mumbai NS 09:02 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Kapri well said as usual i act as the devil's advocate (though agree with u) .....last time when we broke 161.63 we had broken the 200 dma and moved to sub 159 frm where we bounced back all the way to 165 ....now i don't know which is a false move the up one or the down one ......and if the former is the one then there is a lot of fun in store cheers gl gt

Sofia Kaprikorn 09:01 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
ok - that was my view and I test it: short
EURJPY - 162.44
GBPJPY - 225.54
leverage is small so I can add a little more if price goes against me..

Sofia Kaprikorn 08:56 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
ok guys - that was fun..

on G/J as leader - it looks it is right as E/J has lagged and now is probing the 200 dayMA at 162.46 on Daily chart..

well - it's funny since from what i see on G/J it came from the Upper BBand - broke decisevely the 20 dma and it has all the right reasons to go to the lower BB around 223 -- and from there I guess momentum will just push it to test the lows at ~221.50 ---- in reality however it is a difficult task to stick with your view as I had a perfect position..

on E/J -- as AHE excellently called it is the same as it came from top BBand ~165 -- broke the 20 dma - but wha's more important it is breaching now the 200dma (which acted like a pivot from the start of November..) and this double breach should pull it towards the lower BBand around 160.50..
--
however since this is viewed on Daily timeframe - to catch those moves one has to be very confident and trade with a reasonable leverage level - hope I didn't spam too much..

LA AI 08:51 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Paris ib 08:42 GMT December 20, 2007
Paris ib 08:35 GMT December 20, 2007
BINGO!....too predictable Fakwit...have to think of something more original....lol..

==============================================

I don't know what U talkin' about man!!!!!!!!!!!
lol..


Mumbai NS 08:41 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Kapri-mm////// My call went wrong regret .....blame it on rio what else cheers gl gt

LA AI 08:38 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Amman wfakhoury 08:27 GMT December 20, 2007
hard luck for those whom missed my call.

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Chris!

I made around 80 pips following your posting.
It was a very accurate call.
I hope you live long and post here a lot more. LOL

Is the "spicy pip" a prietary trading system you invented
or is it something anyone can buy?

Tia.

madrid mm 08:37 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Sofia Kaprikorn

blame MUMBIA NS, he started it 8-)

LOL

London ADK 08:37 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Paris ib - Its been a long time. Hope you are well.

Sofia Kaprikorn 08:35 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
mm-NS...this was pretty weird anyway... I didn't realize I sound like a woman (with all due respect to women!)

but as Vinny Jones says in one emblematic movie 'u can call me Susan if you like'... here we can come up only with ideas and that's what matters..

madrid mm 08:33 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Mumbai NS

LOl , that s ok , i will not hold you responsible .

London ADK 08:29 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Amman wfakhoury 08:27 - are you serious?

Mumbai NS 08:29 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
mm u can trust me only for views as they are sincerely mine but this is a pure guess mate ......lol! gl gt

Amman wfakhoury 08:27 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
hard luck for those whom missed my call.

madrid mm 08:27 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Sofia Kaprikorn

it i difficult to hear your voice throug this FF ... 8-)

Amman wfakhoury 08:27 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Amman wfakhoury 07:22 GMT December 20, 2007
GBP/USD
======

Sell if breaks level 19950 tp 19880.
Buy if breaks level 20000 tp 20130.

break should be confirmed by closing 3 bars 5 mins chart.

price will be in vibrate pattern up..down..up ..down.
it is already confirmed to down.

========


exited @ tp1 19880.

madrid mm 08:26 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Sofia Kaprikorn

i don t know, Mumbai said this , and i trust NS !!
8-)

LOL


euro/usd 1.4330ish is under "attack again" .... 8-)

so far the fort held
8-)

Mumbai NS 08:26 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Kapri so u confirm my guess is bang on .......btw u have bounced back cheers to that glgt

Como Perrie 08:24 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
USA Zeus 03:55 GMT December 20, 2007

:))


It seems your are entitled for hosting the new eve's celebrations

happy new year then

Sofia Kaprikorn 08:22 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
do I sound like a woman?
too much talking?

madrid mm 08:18 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Welcome to the trading world lady !!!

8-)

Sofia Kaprikorn 08:18 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
NS - certainly - tnx for ur help!
as I wrote to jf usually this is the type of things that make me try to regain the loss that makes me use excessive leverage - but not anymore - I shorted 225.85 for some 20 pips now with small leverage just to test..
I start to think that it is more important to manage your greed (leverage) and survive and then try to even profit..

Zurich M.S. 08:18 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
hello,

who knows if i am calcualting the respective 12months frd. on the EUR - USD and the offsetting transaction the USD-EUR if the premium(/discount) over the spotthe bank earns(/looses) is exactly the same?

e.g. FRD 12 MONTHS: EUR/USD my quotation is SPOT + Premium (/discount)
If i do USD/EUR i calculate the reciprocal on the SPOT and what do I take for the Premium (/discount) ? How can I calculate it?

Mumbai NS 08:17 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
mm well said but my guess she is a lady commands double respect gl gt

madrid mm 08:16 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
kapri, fwiw, in trading you have to learn Learn to Bounce Back.

The personality you need to develop, is resilient, optimistic, tough, strong, and capable of bouncing back continually from temporary disappointments and defeats.

Welcome to the trading world man !!!!

8-)


Mumbai NS 08:06 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Sofia Kaprikorn 07:58 GMT December 20, 2007
Kapri the moment i spotted ur turn i smelled trouble and sort of thot of making u aware but it didn't help so didn't serve the objective .....anyways these things happen .....we have to live with don't feel miserable.....cheers and gud luck frm here gl gt

Maribor 08:00 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
GBPUSD turn level 1,987.

Sofia Kaprikorn 07:58 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Mumbai NS 04:39 //

yes - you are right.. patience is virtue..
I was there 5 hours and it didn't move - then it just fooled me and broke down in the initial way - probably cuz Nikkei dropped in the end of the session..
at least I had a stop to the long position but it was a double loss trade - pretty miserable to be honest..

HK [email protected] 07:49 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
China fast becoming the biggest bank of the world ???????

I think the Pig has put on itself enough fat and will soon be victimized, like the others B4 for example Barclays bank, prev. Japanese investors etc. and the list is very long.

madrid mm 07:42 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
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Amman wfakhoury 07:22 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
GBP/USD
======

Sell if breaks level 19950 tp 19880.
Buy if breaks level 20000 tp 20130.

break should be confirmed by closing 3 bars 5 mins chart.

price will be in vibrate pattern up..down..up ..down.
it is already confirmed to down.

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madrid mm 07:22 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
PAR,

i am confused , if US TsySec Paulson says China is not currency manipulator, how do you define a peg ? Fix or flexible
?


PAR 07:11 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
China fast becoming the biggest bank of the world. Subprime story= junk bond story. Bear Stearns = Drexel Burnham Lambert. Lawsuits are starting.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119810284016240529.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

German Landesbanken also considering legal action.
Are there publicly traded law firms ?

madrid mm 07:05 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
have a gr8 day and may the force be with you all

“Man can believe the impossible, but can never believe the improbable”
Oscar Wilde

madrid mm 07:00 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
The Chinese govt investment fund seems to be busy at the end of the year ...

8-)

madrid mm 06:58 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
* BOJ leaves policy unchanged, vote unanimous, o/n call target 0.50%.

* US TsySec Paulson - China currency substantially undervalued but China notcurrency manipulator, significant acceleration in appreciation needed, notrading partner a currency manipulator - Reuters.

* Chinese govt investment fund takes stake in ANZ Banking Group - TF News.

[Looking Ahead - Economic Data]

GMT

07:00 GER GfK Index Idx Jan
07:15 CHF Trade Balance bn Nov
09:30 GBP Current Account bn
13:30 USD GDP - Final %
15:00 USD Lead. Indicator
17:00 USD Philly Fed SurveyIdx Dec





[USD/JPY] and JPY crosses did little in Asia today, relatively bid early on theback of a buoyant stock market and some demand into the Tokyo fix but off intothe afternoon as the early stock market gains were pared back. USD/JPY traded avery tight 113.20-44 range, [EUR/JPY] 162.65-163.15.55, [GBP/JPY] 225.95-226.60,[AUD/JPY] 97.10-48 and [NZD/JPY] 85.36-73. With Singapore on holiday and manyforeign players having already left Tokyo for Christmas holidays in homecountries, there was little incentive to trade. USD/JPY continues to see goodoffering interest up to 113.55. Stops are seen above here, 113.75 and presumedoption barriers at 114.00 however, and could become relevant should USD riseagain overnight. Japanese exporter offers should provide some headwind though.

[EUR/USD] did little in Asia as has often been the case recently. Moves wereespecially limited today with EUR/JPY doing very little and the Singapore marketclosed, a hotbed of spec trades. EUR/USD traded a tight 1.4370-91 range, wellwithin the 1.4325-1.4424 parameters set yesterday with offers topside noted asclose as 1.4400-10, highs from overnight, and bidding interest near sessionlows. Stops were seen above 1.4410 and 1.4450 and below 1.4325 and 1.4300.


[The Nikkei] rose early, surging to 15,161.66 before moving lower and intonegative territory to 15,017.97 at one point in the afternoon. It closed at15,031.60, up 1.09 on the day. [TOPIX] closed at 1457.56, up 0.77. Most otherbourses in the region were also lower as of 05:15 GMT.

[JGBs] and [Euroyen] futures traded heavy today with gains seen yesterday paredback. The yield on the benchmark 10-year JGBs traded a 1.480-1.520% range andclosed at 1.515%, up from 1.490% yesterday.

madrid mm 06:50 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Hello jedi isr jweb, about what ?

8-)

the best prediction you will ever read anywhere in the universe -

The market will move today , up and down !!!!

LOL

isr jweb 06:48 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
hi mm any ideas..?

madrid mm 06:43 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Hello and gm fx Jedi

8-)

A day without sun shine is like, you know, night.

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USA Zeus 05:55 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
isr jweb 05:50 GMT December 20, 2007

Patience my dear friend is a virtue.
To those others who don't have it (we know who they are)- they will become the patients (again).

Happy trades! Bye for now.

isr jweb 05:50 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
great day zeus - and i am still in waiting for your other prohecy!

USA Zeus 05:48 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Mumbai NS 05:45 GMT December 20, 2007

Thx NS. Happy holidays to you as well! Currency cycles as you know come and go so we just do what we do.

Best of trades to you sir and Cheers!

Mumbai NS 05:45 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Zeus have a blast and a merry xmas think ur land may again become an expensive tourist destination lol gl gt

USA Zeus 05:43 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Interesting the ones that come and go like the weather-

Noosa 20:37 GMT November 28, 2007
USA Zeus 20:09 GMT November 28, 2007
Funny how that works. The lemmings are loud when the market has a slight tick their direction.

slight tick.....my foot !

Any woodduck can see it's an impulsive move not a "slight tick"
which means new High for eurusd, etc......
____________________________________________________

Some things never change (or do they?) LOL!

USA BAY 05:43 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   

04:06 JPY News: BOJ Votes Unanimously to Keep Rates Unchanged December 20. The
Bank of Japan kept its overnight call rate target unchanged at 0.5% for the 12th
straight meeting Thursday, as widely expected.
This gives the central bank more time to see if the volatility in financial
markets triggered by the credit crisis will settle down, and whether continuing
weakness in the US housing market poses any downside risk to growth in the US,
one of Japan's most important trading partners. The decision also gives the
central bank time to assess emerging uncertainty about Japanese private demand
following the introduction of stricter building regulations.
The Bank of Japan said the nine members of its policy board voted
unanimously to leave the rate unchanged. Board member Atsushi Mizuno, an
advocate in the past of an early increase, dropped his calls for higher interest
rates. The BOJ will hold its next policy board meeting on January 21-22. pw/ys

USA Zeus 05:35 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
hong kong 04:55 GMT December 20, 2007

LOL!

isr jweb 05:12 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
my own view on a short term basis the euro will be a good sell if seen a rise to 1.45, right now i am sitting on the side.

my 2 cents view for what its worth...

hong kong 04:55 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
USA Zeus 03:55 GMT December 20, 2007

Euro's 7000-pip bounce from 0.8 to 1.5 is the long term uptrend with lots of 500-1500 points short term downtrend in the middle. Short term bears are guessing tops to sell and medium term bulls are also guessing tops to scale out. After some weeks, short term bears are guessing bottoms to cover and medium term bulls are also guessing bottoms to scale in again...

Mumbai NS 04:39 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Kapri it is gud to be flexible but not soooooooo flexi mate can get to a double edged sword gl gt

toronto Malver Santos 03:59 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Capri-Korn the line hasnt been broken in decisive way

the buy signal on 1hr

so its long

interesting thing about G-Y is the fact that its usually leads the pack in terms of generating the buy/sekk signals , majors eventually follows , probably it has to do with the liquidity

USA Zeus 03:55 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Will be exciting for sure in our celebrations of the USD holiday gift. Oddly, those who were chirping to "not fight the trend" when I was accumulating cheap USD's seem to have been getting sliced apart fighting the "trend" as it strengthened.

The madness of crowds- hmpf

tokyo ginko 03:20 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
nk = nikkei

Sofia Kaprikorn 03:18 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
censored - was too greedy - missed the exit at loss and reversed to long G/J 226.34...

seems with Nikkei in+ it will translate into buying into the early European session..

hong kong nt 03:03 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
EUROqueen--how you see the possibility of Euro retracing to 1.34 in coming weeks?

austin mw 03:00 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Sofia Kaprikorn 02:18 GMT December 20, 2007
Don't forget BOJ announcement is today and don't
look for a change but maybe a dovish statement going
forward might keep jpy offered

hong kong nt 02:59 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
tokyo ginko 02:24 GMT December 20, 2007

what is nk? thanks

Los Angeles - bernie 02:53 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
SK --- it often seems the G/JY is a buy when the DOW is positive, is there a relationship to the Nikkei?

tokyo ginko 02:24 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
most traders are out of the nk market for this week. NK on a 3 month outlook will look to test lower.. IMVHO

i am a buyer in dips

Sofia Kaprikorn 02:18 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
I shorted G/J 226.20 on the trend line break but is it because of Nikkei in + territory or cuz it is a non moving asia session I'm kinda dissuaded with this position as it was meant to be a quick move down... so I'm looking to square..

USA BAY 01:59 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Hong Kong Qindex,

Thanks for the analysis Dr Q. Appreciate it.

Hong Kong Qindex 01:22 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Van jv 01:05 GMT - AUD/CAD : It is a significant move when the market is trading below 0.8668.


Basically it was a replied post to USA Bay.


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USA BAY 00:00 GMT December 20, 2007
Hong Kong Qindex,

Dr Q, could you kindly share your bias for aud/cad and aud/chf pls. TIA

Hong Kong Qindex 01:10 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
GBP/USD : Projected supporting barriers are located at 1.9754, 1.9795, 1.9857 and 1.9916.


Hong Kong Qindex 02:16 GMT December 16, 2007
GBP/USD : Critical Support 1.9925 - 2.0136


Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (2.0065) - (2.0237)


Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is trading below the weekly cycle pivot center at 2.0065 - 2.0237. The downside targeting points are 1.9795 and 1.9937. A projected resistant barrier is located at 2.0225 - 2.0236.

Van jv 01:05 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Hong Kong Qindex 07:46 GMT December 18, 2007
Re pairs such as AUD/CAD ....I consider preferable analysed "main" pairs AUD /USD and USD/CAD and only if both favorable may consider composite AUD/CAD , if at all--Ur opinion

Hong Kong Qindex 01:00 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
GBP/AUD : Projected supporting barriers are located at 2.3004, 2.3107 and 2.3186.



Hong Kong Qindex 03:03 GMT December 17, 2007
GBP/AUD : Critical Resistance 2.3887 - 2.3893

Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (2.3259) - (2.3793)


Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is below the weekly cycle pivot center at 2.3259 - 2.3793. The downside targeting points are 2.2882 and 2.3126. A critical supporting barrier is expected at 2.2506 - 2.2570.

Hong Kong Qindex 00:54 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
GBP/CAD : Projected supporting barriers are located at 1.9753, 1.9896 and 1.9937.


Hong Kong Qindex 11:41 GMT December 18, 2007
GBP/CAD :  Resistance at 2.0540 - 2.0567


Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (2.0249) - (2.0468)


Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is trading below 2.0249. The downside targeting points are 1.9937 and 2.0135. A projected resistant level is expected at 2.0540 - 2.0567.

Hong Kong Qindex 00:49 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
GBP/CHF : Projected supporting barriers are located at 2.2762, 2.2845, 2.2919 and 2.3004.


Hong Kong Qindex 03:15 GMT December 17, 2007
GBP/CHF: Resistance at 2.3370 - 2.3387


Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (2.3164) - (2.3293)


Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is trading below the weekly cycle pivot center at 2.3164 - 2.3293. The downside targeting points are 2.2596 and 2.2851. A projected resistant level has been established at 2.3370 - 2.3387.

Hong Kong Qindex 00:39 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
AUD/CAD : I am bias on the downside. Projected supporting barriers are located at 0.8504, 0.8521, 0.8554 and 0.8580.


Hong Kong Qindex 07:46 GMT December 18, 2007
AUD/CAD : Resistance at 0.8644 - 0.8661

Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (0.8668) - (0.8732)


Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is trading below the weekly cycle pivot center at 0.8668 - 0.8732. The downside targeting points are 0.8389 and 0.8420. A projected resistant level is expected at 0.8644 - 0.8661.

Hong Kong Qindex 00:31 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
CHF/AUD : My bias is on the downside and the critical supporting point is 1.0037. Other barriers are located at 0.9907, 1.0015 and 1.0030.


Hong Kong Qindex 12:49 GMT December 19, 2007
CHF/AUD : Resistance at 1.0201 - 1.0207

Weekly Cycle Pivot Center : (1.0198) - (1.0308)


Remarks : The market is under pressure when it is below the weekly cycle pivot center at 1.0198 - 1.0308. The downside targeting points are 0.9882 and 0.9963.

Gen dk 00:25 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
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HK [email protected] 00:16 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
I just cant tell! And under yearend Mkt conditions even harder to guess.

For the near term I can only say for the CHF, that if you see it at 1.1580, good chances you can make 40pips to around 1.1630.

pittsburgh ts 00:09 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
HK [email protected] 23:34 GMT December 19, 2007

eur/usd target by year end?

USA BAY 00:00 GMT December 20, 2007 Reply   
Hong Kong Qindex,

Dr Q, could you kindly share your bias for aud/cad and aud/chf pls. TIA

 




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