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Hk Ab 23:35 GMT November 12, 2020
Mkt
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A Black Friday again

dc CB 22:18 GMT November 12, 2020
Observation

'Buyers regret'
well know 'Feminist' I shouldn't have bought those Louboutins, (sigh)

Dr Naomi Wolf
@naomirwolf
If I�d known Biden was open to �lockdowns� as he now states, which is something historically unprecedented in any pandemic, and a terrifying practice, one that won�t ever end because elites love it, I would never have voted for him.

AT Trader john 21:07 GMT November 12, 2020
Friday Amazing Trader 13 November 2020

LATE Thursday: MIXED RISK
DJ: 29,080 -318
SP: 3,537 -36
NQ: 11,710 -77

2-yr 0.177% -0.8 bp
Spread 10s-2s +71.6 bp (+76.1)
10-yr

US: 0.893% -9.6 bp
UK: 0.345% -0.5 bp
DE: -0.542% -0.8 bp

EURUSD MACRO TREND: POSITIVE
Spots (Pivot Point prev day)
EURUSD 1.1801 (1.1794)
GBPUSD 1.3111 (1.3150)
EURGBP 0.9000 (0.8969)
USDJPY 105.17 (105.25)

THIS Week 1.1921-1.1746 (175 pips)
thu: 1.1823-1.1759 (64)
wed: 1.1834-1.1746 (88)
tue: 1.1844-1.1780 (64)
mon: 1.1921-1.1796 (125)
fri: 1.1891-1.1796 (95)

20-d avg: 1.1781
50-day avg: 1.1769
100-day avg: 1.1710
200-day avg: 1.1360

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dc CB 21:00 GMT November 12, 2020
Observation
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After the 2016 election - Obama et al spent his remaining time in office making moves to undermine the incoming administration as well as setting up The Resistance, looking forward to a Third Term for the democrats. The fruits of these efforts are now playing out in real time.

I appears that Trump is finally going to move on some of the promises unfullfilled by his administration, now that he has nothing to lose--meaning a 2nd term.

It will be interesting to watch. --- 70 days left.
The Apprentice: The White House Season - The Final Days
_____________________________________________

With Esper out the door, Trump's newly in office acting Secretary of Defense is already making waves given who he's just brought on board.

The new acting Pentagon chief, Christopher Miller, has just brought on as his senior adviser Ret. Army Col. Douglas Macgregor. Crucially Macgregor is on record as wanting American troops out of Syria immediately (gasp, the horror!), and further wants a rapid draw down in Afghanistan as well as in places like the Korean Peninsula.

"President Trump's newly installed acting Pentagon chief is bringing on a senior adviser in a sign the administration wants to accelerate the withdrawal of U.S. troops from the Middle East before the end of his presidency in January, three people familiar with the move told Axios," Jonathan Swan writes.

New Pentagon Top Adviser Wants US Troops Out Of Syria "Immediately"

GVI Forex Blog 19:35 GMT November 12, 2020
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Israel MacroMicro 19:07 GMT November 12, 2020
News

cb

you are 12hrs flight off him
I probably can hear him farting

feel free to feel blessed

Israel MacroMicro 19:05 GMT November 12, 2020
News

yes, helping Americans turned into cat fight

dc CB 18:44 GMT November 12, 2020
News

No Soup for YOU!!
_____________________________
Bloomberg reporting that the Trump administration is now stepping back from stimulus talks. Previously, the administration acted as the liaison for congressional Republicans and Democrats. The focus will now rest primarily on interactions between McConnell and Pelosi until President-Elect Joe Biden is sworn-in January 20, and without Trump's prodding, any hopes of a massive Republicans offer have collapsed.

According to Bloomberg, the White House move "greatly diminishes the chances of a trillion-dollar or more stimulus for the U.S. economy before January."

dc CB 18:19 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

30 y done....1.68%
The Indirects showed up --- took almost 17bln of the 27bln offered.

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/instit/annceresult/press/preanre/2020/R_20201112_5.pdf

dc CB 18:11 GMT November 12, 2020
News

ac
you are so blinded that you missed the point of my post.

It was refering to a Money Making Opportunity --- re-structuring of the media/sports/entertaiment landscape ----as a result of Identity Politics along with Covid.

You have yet to post any ideas about making money.

haifa ac 17:28 GMT November 12, 2020
News

"blamed the network for the election results"
THere is already a research out showing how destructive, ignorant, selfish and dangerous was Trump's behavior all the way (From February).
This guy is becoming a sad joke.

dc CB 17:28 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

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Long a roughly vol-weighted basket of MXN, ZAR, and INR vs USD
Long CNY and Long 3Y CGBs combined
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dc CB 17:20 GMT November 12, 2020
News

link

Trump's comments probably had more impact since earlier today, Axios reported that the president has revived plans to launch his own digital media offering. Instead of a television channel, which would require enormous startup costs, the president is looking into a digital streaming project to rival Fox's "Fox Nation" digital-subscription service.

Fox

dc CB 17:17 GMT November 12, 2020
News

Shares of Fox Corp., the corporate parent of Fox News and many of Rupert Murdoch's remaining media assets following the sale of most of his entertainment business to Disney, are sliding Thursday after President Trump urged viewers to abandon Fox.

In a tweet, Trump essentially blamed the network for the election results, and argued that the network "forgot what made them successful".

ZH

Mtl JP 17:12 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

mushroom feeding time ...
-
Lagarde, Bailey and Powell all holding the bs spray hose at some forum

all is well, is going to get better
and gov'ts need to open their wallets

(they started about 20 minites ago)

AT Trader john 17:04 GMT November 12, 2020
Friday Amazing Trader 13 November 2020
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GVI Trading. Potential Price Risk Scale
AA: Major, A: High, B: Medium

Fri 13 NOV 2020
A 13:30 US- PPI
AA 15:00 US- Prelim Univ of Michigan


GVI Trading. Potential Price Risk Scale
AA: Major, A: High, B: Medium

Tue 16 Jun 2020
A 12:30 US- Empire PMI
AA 12:30 US- Retail Sales
A 13:15 US- Industrial Production
B 14:00 US- NAHB
Wed 17 Jun 2020
A 07:00 GB- CPI
AA 09:00 EZ- Final HICP
AA 12:30 CA- CPI
A 12:30 US- House Starts/Permits
A 16:00 US- EIA Crude


dc CB 16:34 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

30Y on the block - $27bln. results after 1PM

FEARS of 1% on the 10Y POOF

30 should go off at well under 1.7% later today ----Nice Gift for the President Elect....LOL

AT Trader john 16:01 GMT November 12, 2020
News

US EIA Weekly Crude Inventories






-- LATEST NEWS --
Crude Oil: +4.278 v -1.300 exp v -7.900 prev.



Weekly Petroleum Status Report



dc CB 15:37 GMT November 12, 2020
Horrible numbers and Nobody cares

Dr. Anthony Fauci said Thursday that COVID-19 "won't be a pandemic a lot longer" thanks to the rapid progress on vaccines

"Certainly it�s not going to be a pandemic for a lot longer because I believe the vaccines are going to turn that around," Fauci said.

"I doubt we�re going to eradicate this," he said. "I think we need to plan that this is something we may need to maintain control over chronically. It may be something that becomes endemic that we have to just be careful about."

I won Big

Israel MacroMicro 15:33 GMT November 12, 2020
Gold

soon he pops to say his stop was at 1882

LOL

Israel MacroMicro 15:17 GMT November 12, 2020
Gold

Kwun is my guru :)

Hk Ab 15:10 GMT November 12, 2020
Gold

Marco micro//

The more you quack for 2600, the better ;)

Israel MacroMicro 14:22 GMT November 12, 2020
Gold

2600 stop?

HK Kevin 14:02 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

Minneapolis DRS2 11:16 GMT, I just got stop profit of my short EUR position opened at 1.1813. Dlr index capped at 10-day ma.

Hk Ab 13:58 GMT November 12, 2020
Gold
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Add 1878

Hk Ab 13:58 GMT November 12, 2020
Gold
Reply   
Add 1878

Hk Ab 13:50 GMT November 12, 2020
Gold
Reply   
After buy, now sold 1874

AT Trader john 13:32 GMT November 12, 2020
News
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Weekly Jobless Claims





-- LATEST DATA --


709K vs 725,000 exp vs. 751,000(r 787,000 )




++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


U.S. CPI October 2020



LATEST DATA
Headline:
m/m: 0.0% vs. +0.20% exp. v +0.20% pre
y/y:+1.60% vs. +1.70% exp. v +1.70% pre

RELEASE: Consumer Price Index




haifa ac 13:20 GMT November 12, 2020
Horrible numbers and Nobody cares
Reply   
More than million infected last 10 days.
Italy is calling for total lockdown.
Yesterday highest number of infected- 142,000.
Total death so far 241,809. (close to 1/4 million!)
Turkey, Ukraine, Britain....rising numbers....

Trump: "I won big!"

Hk Ab 12:25 GMT November 12, 2020
Yen
Reply   
Yen is still pointing stronger usd

Israel MacroMicro 12:14 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

YM: probably just bottomed for the rest of today

london red 11:36 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

its a eurgbp move. yesterday saw a big reversal after some comments late evening from the uk and it has continued today. mkt is still blinkered for a deal but i reiterate what FCA said earlier today. they are just as good at shutting stable doors after horse has bolted as is the SEC but one thing they said today made sense. whatever deal is stuck or not, its too late to assume it will cover all fields. there simply is not enough time. anything agreed will be sub the standard of the present arrangement. so after an initial euphoris it may well be better to travel than arrive. in the case of nothing or very little being agreed the move would be more substantial more permanent as it appears nobody expects it.

Minneapolis DRS2 11:16 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

I've tried shorting EUR/USD a couple times, but the demand for EUR is pretty strong today and I got knocked out twice...

AT Trader john 11:13 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

When the elephants are fighting, the mice get trampled.

AT Trader john 11:11 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

Looks like there is a "real money" (non-speculative) demand for EURGBP at the moment. You never really know when the order is done, but you should stay out of the way when the order is being executed. Could be Brexit based transaction?

AT Trader john 10:56 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

The continued resurgence of the Coronavirus continues to dominate the press today. It has forced many governments to tighten restrictions at a time when they would have preferred to do nothing until vaccines would be ready to curb its spread. Curbs on activity of all sorts restrain economic activity and cost governments a lot of money.

The current U.S. administration is not going to impose another politically unpopular lockdown as we head into the end of year holiday season. There is also the question if the two parties in Washington can agree on a stimulus package.

EURUSD is back above the psychological 1.1800 level early in NY. Its 20-day moving average is 1.1779. S&P futures are also bid and driving a RISK-ON trade in the pair. EURGBP is up on the higher EURUSD. Brexit headlines continue to flow in. Be careful not to take statements made by negotiators too seriously. The hard deadline is yearend.

The USD is lower against the CAD while the Aussie is off its earlier highs.

Today sees U.S. CPI and the latest Weekly Jobless Claims.

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Mtl JP 10:23 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

Expecting more headlines about:
- china gift spreading (alarmingly, on the rise, have to get ahead of it etc)
- vaccines going into testing (which is different from "results")
- (here in Qc provicial health law has built-in the word "compulsory")
- brexit ("working hard" type, intense ... )

and assorted posi-babble from various politicians / central bankers

***
DLRx 92.785 (down some)
EURO - 1.18135 (uP some)
SnP uP atm, showing some early enthusiasm
10-yr paying 0.941% (down some from 0.979)

AT Trader john 10:23 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

Thursday: MIXED RISK
DJ: 29,149 -152
SP: 3,562 -6
NQ: 11,942 +56

2-yr 0.183% -0.2 bp
Spread 10s-2s +76.1 bp (+77.5)
10-yr

US: 0.944% -4.5 bp
UK: 0.404% -0.1 bp
DE: -0.505% -0.1 bp

EURUSD MACRO TREND: POSITIVE
Spots (Pivot Point prev day)
EURUSD 1.1812 (1.1784)
GBPUSD 1.3196 (1.3232)
EURGBP 0.8951 (0.8897)
USDJPY 105.32 (105.37)

THIS Week 1.1921-1.1746 (175 pips)
thu: 1.1817-1.1759 (58)
wed: 1.1834-1.1746 (88)
tue: 1.1844-1.1780 (64)
mon: 1.1921-1.1796 (125)
fri: 1.1891-1.1796 (95)

20-d avg: 1.1779
50-day avg: 1.1770
100-day avg: 1.1705
200-day avg: 1.1356

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haifa ac 10:17 GMT November 12, 2020
Suggestion

Yes, but you yourself offer good advice for:

"How to Trade a Political Forex Market"

AT Trader john 10:01 GMT November 12, 2020
News
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Industrial Production September 2020





Latest Data
-0.40%vs. +0.80% exp vs. +0.70% (r ) prev.


GVI Forex 09:44 GMT November 12, 2020
Suggestion
Reply   
This is not a political forum so suggest the focus be more on trading than politics except to the extent impacts the market.

AT Trader john 09:29 GMT November 12, 2020
Thursday Amazing Trader 12 November 2020

GVI Trading. Potential Price Risk Scale
AA: Major, A: High, B: Medium

Thu 12 NOV 20120
AA 08:00 UK- Trade
A 08:00 GB- Output, Trade, GDP
AA 13:30 US- CPI
A 13:30 US- Weekly Jobless
A 16:00 US- EIA Crude
Fri 13 NOV 2020
A 13:30 US- PPI
AA 15:00 US- Prelim Univ of Michigan


GVI Trading. Potential Price Risk Scale
AA: Major, A: High, B: Medium

Tue 16 Jun 2020
A 12:30 US- Empire PMI
AA 12:30 US- Retail Sales
A 13:15 US- Industrial Production
B 14:00 US- NAHB
Wed 17 Jun 2020
A 07:00 GB- CPI
AA 09:00 EZ- Final HICP
AA 12:30 CA- CPI
A 12:30 US- House Starts/Permits
A 16:00 US- EIA Crude

Minneapolis DRS2 09:16 GMT November 12, 2020
Minneapolis DRS2 02:22 GMT 11/12/2020

Heh, "seriously disturbed" ain't the worst thing anyone has called me in my life, so I guess I'm doing all right. That does not change my opinion one bit...forced lockdowns cause extreme damage, not just to the economy but to the well-being of the people. Living in mortal fear is no way to go through life.

A while ago, I believed that the whole virus scare thing would disappear if Biden got into office, because by that point Trump would be gone and all that. But now? An endless regime of second-guessing by people who are protected from the effects of their own decisions? By a never-ending "special coronavirus transition advisory team"?

Now that's seriously disturbed enough to make me want to leave the country too. But I love my country.

SYD JK 08:45 GMT November 12, 2020
Minneapolis DRS2 02:22 GMT 11/12/2020
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Minneapolis DRS2 - You comment is the very reason i left Yankee land after 15 great years. You and your other 70 million brethren are seriously disturbed dudes.

haifa ac 07:11 GMT November 12, 2020
Trump=Stalin

"oh, it was not physical you dancing around pictures of Stalin"

I was trying to describe the level of blind admiration to Stalin in those days. Same way that people "admire" Trump today.
You are either too dumb to understand this (I mentioned that among the blind admirers were Arabs like Habibi and Toubi, which you chose to ignore (like telling us from what city in Israel do you hail))...or just one spiteful chap.

Minneapolis DRS2 07:08 GMT November 12, 2020
Outdoor Dining
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Totally off-topic, but it's an hour until market open...check out this YouTube video from Louis Rossman. He usually puts up electronics repair videos, but he often goes out on his bike and rolls around the streets of Manhattan for his material.

Tonight he takes a look at "outdoor" dining, NYC-style. It's hilarious.

"Outdoor" dining

Israel MacroMicro 07:01 GMT November 12, 2020
Trump=Stalin

oh, it was not physical you dancing around pictures of Stalin. it was theoretical, I get it now. LOL

talking about history and forgets own words minutes ago.

haifa ac 06:45 GMT November 12, 2020
Trump=Stalin

LOL. You have a penchant to turn every theoretical discussion into personal insults. Booooo.

Israel MacroMicro 06:29 GMT November 12, 2020
Trump=Stalin

good luck ac

you are serious about getting into conversation about how people will see things 20 years into the future about what happening now. what is history other than one trusting other's narrative?

useless for the life and mindset I hold, good luck and best of recoveries!

haifa ac 06:09 GMT November 12, 2020
Trump=Stalin

Israel MacroMicro you claim you are from Israel (btw what city?!) but you know nothing of the big battle between the communist parties , Mak"i (Emile Habibi, Tawfik Toubi), Mapa"m, and Ben Gurion.... the rift inside the Kibbutz movement around the admiration of Stalin. Vadi Nisnas.....during the early years or the state. Israel was torn about the issue of Stalin--was he indeed the sun of the nations or a vile person. History chose the latter. So it will be with Trump. I can say this because I have history on my side.

Israel MacroMicro 05:55 GMT November 12, 2020
Trump=Stalin

haifa ac 04:59

there is no way on earth your P/L bottom line is other than LOSS and no matter what you claim. you are too illusive to realize what happens in the markets while having money in it.

your mental build is not for trading, airing that post is the proof of concept.

solve your issues regarding the ones allowed you at 6 y/o of age going to dance around pictures of anyone and not specifically Stalin. nuts!

haifa ac 05:54 GMT November 12, 2020
Trump=Stalin

DRS2 --we will know if I am right only 20 years from now when Trump's legacy will be expressed in history books and references. I won't be there to argue with you. I am sure that the Corona will be his most remembered legacy. My opinion.

Minneapolis DRS2 05:41 GMT November 12, 2020
Trump=Stalin

ac Please say that you're just copying this s*** off some blog and not writing it yourself. I'd hate to think that a respected member of this forum actually believes all those words. Trump may be a lot of offensive things, but a Stalin-class mass murderer isn't one of them.

haifa ac 05:17 GMT November 12, 2020
S&P crucial below 3512

We started a second attack on that crucial point. 3512.
Tallinn viies 18:35 alluded to a similar chart structure.

haifa ac 05:10 GMT November 12, 2020
Trump=Stalin

just a sample of today's headlines:

RECORD HOSPITALIZATIONS
VIRUS OUT OF CONTROL
STILL NO PEAK
CAN ANYTHING STOP IT?
'COVID HONESTY' DILEMMA FOR WORKERS
MODEL PREDICTS 400,000 DEATHS BY FEB

San Francisco faces spike in virus cases...

MN Gov. warns about talking too loudly...

White House reports 'accelerating community spread'...

140,000 new cases today!

Cuomo issues new restrictions...

Nov/12/2020

haifa ac 04:59 GMT November 12, 2020
Trump=Stalin
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Stalin was admired by his people and around the world. He built Russia after the czars, he saved the world from the evil of Hitler. He was called " sun of the nations". As a child the youth movement "Hashomer Hatzair" tried to indoctrinate me and make me dance around his picture. I was 6 and yet I was disgusted and left the bone fire. I did not join any youth movement for many years.

Then came Nikita Krushchev (1956) and divulged the truth that Stalin was a MASS MURDERER who killed more than 20,000,000 Russians. Today he is remembered as a very vile and evil person. Very lousy legacy.

So is Trump. He was a good president for 3 years, then came 2020 and the Corona and he became a Mass murderer. The Chinese designed virus is a real evil killer. It spreads exponentially, goes thru various mutations and so far is invincible. Trump ignores it and millions of Americans follow his leadership and will die from the virus.

Trump will be remembered ONLY for his vile and ruthless attitude toward the Corona and as a mass murderer. Just like Stalin.

dc CB 03:09 GMT November 12, 2020
Biden-Harris vs JPM ---Covid

'we're back in the saddle again'

dc CB 03:08 GMT November 12, 2020
Biden-Harris vs JPM ---Covid

'we're back in the assle again'
BOHICA boys and girls.
The boys are back in town, the boys are Back.
______________________________________________

Joe Biden has chosen his longtime adviser and former Obama admin Ebola 'Czar' Ron Klain to reprise his role as Chief of Staff, according to the Associated Press..
"His deep, varied experience and capacity to work with people all across the political spectrum is precisely what I need in a White House chief of staff as we confront this moment of crisis and bring our country together again," Biden said in a Wednesday night statement.

Klain, a Harvard Law graduate and former editor of the Harvard Law Review, previously served as Biden's Chief of Staff from 2009-2011, as well as former Vice President Al Gore from 1995-1999 after having worked on the Clinton-Gore campaign in 1992.
Klain was also heavily involved in former Senator John Kerry's failed 2004 bid for president.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-picks-longtime-adviser-and-obama-ebola-czar-chief-staff

Hk Ab 02:52 GMT November 12, 2020
Gold

Well done Kevin as usual

Minneapolis DRS2 02:22 GMT November 12, 2020
Biden-Harris vs JPM ---Covid

Anyone who wants freedom should pray that Biden never gets into office. Osterholm's thinking is what Governor Walz has been using to lock down the state of Minnesota.

Four to six weeks? F***...Minnesota has been locked down for months! Downtown Minneapolis is a ghost town, with businesses shutting down every day due to the lack of activity. Businesses that will not come back.

Now imagine a nation being completely shut down like that. This is what reliance on "experts" and "THE SCIENCE" has brought us. Osterholm is an epidemiologist, and by all accounts a damn good one. He is not, however, an economist, nor anyone who depended on the private sector for a living. He's a guy who has always been on the public teat and thinks the government can always provide more funding.

Sell USD if Biden and Harris actually get in. There will be no good reason to hold it.

dc CB 01:40 GMT November 12, 2020
Biden-Harris vs JPM ---Covid
Reply   
Dr. Michael Osterholm, who serves as director of the Center of Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, and is the latest "scientist" to join Joe Biden's "special coronavirus transition advisory team."

So what is his suggestion?
"A nationwide lockdown would drive the number of new cases and hospitalizations down to manageable levels while the world awaits a vaccine, Osterholm told Yahoo Finance on Wednesday.

�We could pay for a package right now to cover all of the wages, lost wages for individual workers for losses to small companies to medium-sized companies or city, state, county governments. We could do all of that,� he said. �If we did that, then we could lockdown for four-to-six weeks.�

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/biden-science-advisor-calls-4-6-week-lockdown-avoid-covid-hell

___________________________________________________
JPMorgan Finds No Benefits From COVID Lockdowns

"Our research finds no meaningful curve development differences between countries with and without strong curve intervention. This makes us question if existing public health intervention (i.e., lockdown/ stricter social distancing) should remain in place next year."

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/jpmorgan-finds-no-benefits-covid-lockdowns

 




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Wed 29 May 2019
A 08:55 DE- Employment
AA 18:00 US- BOC Decision
A 18:30 US- EIA Crude
Thu 30 Mar 2019
AAEZ/CH- Holiday
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