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Mtl JP  02:49:28 GMT - 04/25/2016  
ok... lets say "It happens just about every morning at the European Open 3:00AM.

but.... HOW DID THEY EVEN CALCULATE AN INDEX NUMBER ?

I am asking coz I wanna know


dc CB  21:29:38 GMT - 04/24/2016  
Mtl JP 11:14 GMT
they were ramping the indexes via futures. Monday's price action was very revealing. yet the underlying stocks often were not trading, i.e. not even had an indictive price and they were experiencing air pocket moves. SO HOW DID THEY EVEN CALCULATE AN INDEX NUMBER ?
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It happens just about every morning at the European Open 3:00AM.


nw kw  21:11:42 GMT - 04/24/2016  
slap stick granny before September for china be strong go pmi's ? slap gold


nw kw  21:08:13 GMT - 04/24/2016  
physical has power to put gold at 300.00 add mills?


Mtl JP  21:00:22 GMT - 04/24/2016  
part plan is physical gold outside of banking sys


nw kw  20:56:08 GMT - 04/24/2016  
jp- you have plan


Mtl JP  11:14:54 GMT - 04/24/2016  
re Sorry small trader, you're hosed not matter what.

from earlier discussion with a trading buddy, almost a year ago, take it fwiw and trade your risk at your own risk:

note about stocks which should really be about "index"
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lots if not all funds out of the market all cash - literally or physical, should I care about making 20 or even 30% when the downside risk is 100% gone as the system locks up ?
they were ramping the indexes via futures. Monday's price action was very revealing. yet the underlying stocks often were not trading, i.e. not even had an indictive price and they were experiencing air pocket moves. SO HOW DID THEY EVEN CALCULATE AN INDEX NUMBER ?
it was totally bogus, in other words trading bogus index numbers when the stocks were not able to trade. just think about that for a minute: the indexes were trading on 'nothing', it wasn't even based on the underlying stocks, just electronic chits moving it around willy nilly. it's like in FX someone just says Euro is 1.30 and it doesn't matter what trades are going through in different platforms. EBS says 1.30 and it's 1.30, that's how stupid it was, they were in full panic mode, to resort to such blatant screwing around of the markets

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It is a digital world and a new normal. Those with "administrator" powers to edit/change data, seem to rule.
Those who can't get fukked.


dc CB  20:23:00 GMT - 04/23/2016  
Hi, I'm a daytrader and I read your site almost every day. Something disturbing happened this morning. I bought a nymex copper contract with an attached stop limit and take profit. My stop got rejected by the exchange. I think it was in pending mode. I ignored it and when the market moved up, i moved the stop up. Then the exchange accepted it. My take profit order got hit instead. Then, I shorted an ES. Again, the market rejected my stop limit.

Luckily the market went down so I was able to play around with the stop to see what worked - i moved it within 4 points of the market, the exchange accepted it, and when it reversed, the stop got filled.

I have been attaching stop limits to all my trades forever. They are always initially placed the same percentage away from the entry trade. I did not change anything today. There has never been a problem. Apparently, Globex & Nymex have introduced something called 'price banding' and on ES, the band for stop limits is now only 6 points.

That is not far enough away for me and I'm sure it's the same for many other traders.

The price bands are also apparently dynamic, so if the price moves, the stop which was accepted by the exchange could now become invalid and will not get filled on a reversal. This has major implications, I don't think I need to explain them to you.

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