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Paris ib  06:42:25 GMT - 11/29/2020  

In France and Europe in general there is extreme scepticism about Covid. See Didier Raoult. I won't bother posting links suffice to say the PCR test is bogus HCQ works and is used extensively in Italy. Court cases are now starting in Italy regarding fraud. And initial deaths were in large part manslaughter of vulnerable, isolated elderly people in nursing homes. This happened in Italy and France and, it seems, in New York.

There is treatment for this virus, total deaths in 2020 are no different than any other year and the lockdowns caused immense and unnecessary economic chaos.

haifa ac  05:05:04 GMT - 11/29/2020  
"If he leaves office early, he'll be missed."

Well, I am betting that he will be forgotten faster than damned Jimmy Carter.
The rift in this country is at heights rarely seen. The violence in the streets is dark. Red and Blue are now enemies and not part of a great Republic. My son is a clever, good American who served in the Peace Corps for 3 years, He is clever enough to have invented a game he sold to a large toy company and he even speaks a little French. I put a lot of hope in Trump. Being an extreme capitalists who thinks that democracy is a big hoax (when 100,000 people vote for one candidate and 100,001 vote for another---and win the elections--democracy is the rule of ONE PERSON!), believing that PC is the curse of our society, that JIHADIC ISLAM should be erased from the face of the Earth ( and Trump was the BEST president supporting this view) ....list goes on and on... I would have LOVED to see Trump having another session. But his behavior with the CORONA Destroyed everything. I called it OBM==One Big Mistake---and for this he HAD TO pay. His behavior last year was of a megalomaniac wacko and he should not been allowed to guide this country for another 4 years. Biden is a zero but a zero is much better than minus 10.

dc CB  22:49:58 GMT - 11/28/2020  
from the Upper Hudson Valley.

President Swamp

Donald Trump found out the hard way how illusory his powers as POTUS really were, conditioned against the inertia, malice, and bad faith resistance of the bureaucratic establishment, a.k.a. the Swamp. He also knows that the Swamp just worked the system it created to elect itself president as (it likes to think) a final act of revenge against the orange interloper who threatened to drain it and, alas, failed to. All hail President Swamp!

Unless that doesn’t pan out, and there’s a fair chance it won’t, since a 2020 election fraud case will eventually land in the Supreme Court where at least five justices might not be so inclined to let what remains of the Republic roll into a Woke sludge of lawlessness. Do you suppose Clarence Thomas & Co haven’t been paying attention the past four years to the swampish doings in the other branches of government? And that they are, just perhaps, good and goddam sick of it? Everything from RussiaGate and the manipulation of the FISA court through the attempted character assassination of Justice Kavanaugh, to the Eric Ciaramella “whistleblower” impeachment caper starring Rep. Adam Schiff, plus all the side dishes of Antifa / BLM street anarchy, Covid-19 lockdown tyranny, French Laundry hypocrisy, and the gaslighting of America by the news-and-social media, with a transsexual reading hour cherry-on-top?

I hope the justices are pissed off a little bit at the hijacking of this country by a party that laughs at the law the way, for one example, DC District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan blew raspberries at the Department of Justice and the DC Circuit Court of Appeals when they both told him to drop the Flynn case. The deadline for adjudicating the janky election is soon upon us, and upon the SCOTUS justices, so the country will know shortly whether it has become the Honduras of the north.

Kunstler - Clusterf^c-Nation

Minneapolis DRS2  19:19:02 GMT - 11/28/2020  
An honest assessment of the Trump presidency will reveal that Trump is/was a classic centrist. To say that "Trump is the worst thing to happen to the US" says a lot more about the one saying it than him.

He got a lot of stuff done, and left a lot of stuff undone. To those who voted for him, he did his job to the best of his ability given the circumstances. While he historically has had a crass personality, his display of such attributes during his time in office is not out of line compared to other recent presidents. Scandals were largely made up by his political opponents, and not created by him or his staff. He got the US out of war more than he got the country into a war, which is a lot more than can be said of any recent president.

If he leaves office early, he'll be missed.

haifa ac  18:46:38 GMT - 11/28/2020  
" I find it remarkable that 2 posters, who do not live in the US are so sure of what they think they know about the US

1. My son, an engineer for GE in Wisconsin, thinks that Trump is the worst thing that happened to the US.
2. I have other family members and I listen to their opinions
3. here is what I wrote in April this year:

haifa ac 16:22 GMT April 15, 2020
this is TOO MUCH: Reply

Arash Markazi


Donald Trump: “We have to get our sports back. I’m tired of watching baseball games that are 14 years old.”

I am a Trump supporter but this is imbecilic!
The President of the USA amid CORONA epidemic has time to watch baseball games?

There is something idiotic about the guy. "

from that day on I KNEW he has to go. Not so bad for an outsider, eh??
Sometimes those from the outside (with a wider perspective) have a better view.

dc CB  17:52:19 GMT - 11/28/2020  
for those interested and won't read the book
55mins.with Stephen tour 2013

The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles and Their Secret World War

dc CB  17:31:27 GMT - 11/28/2020  
fwiw--- in his own words.
The Promised Land --- Barack Obama.

In places like Yemen and Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq, the lives of millions of young men like those three dead Somalis (some of them boys, really, since the oldest pirate was believed to be nineteen) had been warped and stunted by desperation, ignorance, dreams of religious glory, the violence of their surroundings, or the schemes of older men.

I wanted somehow to save them—send them to school, give them a trade, drain them of the hate that had been filling their heads.

And yet the world they were a part of, and the machinery I commanded, more often had me killing them instead.

dc CB  17:11:01 GMT - 11/28/2020  
haifa ac 10:12 GMT 11/28/2020 - My Profile
I think all of you blind Trump supporters are wonderful and smart people (DRS2 included).

reading thru the thread. I find it remarkable that 2 posters, who do not live in the US are so sure of what they think they know about the US. eg: Trump is a mass murderer.

Plus they think they know the minds of two of the other posters, in that I, for one, am a supporter of Trump.

Those who have zero basis for their argument ultimately turn to adhominum attacks.

So there---you mother wears combat boots(a schoolyard taunt from the 1950s)

My personnal favorite---you mean they actually let's you handle your own money?

Minneapolis DRS2  14:49:12 GMT - 11/28/2020  
Personal feelings do not generally make a solid basis for effective public policy.

Setting aside the election issues for a moment, it is clear that the US has entered an era where personal feelings are being used to justify policy making. For those of us in the US, our nation's founders recognized this as a problem very early on. It is why our nation is structured as a representative republic rather than a pure democracy.

What does this mean in real life?

1. Look for a lot of market activity to go underground (black markets).

2. Look for a return to secret communications. Twitter will be recognized for what it always was...a place for twits.

3. Look for "smoky backroom deals", but not necessarily with the current generation we have. (In other words, no Trump, Biden or Obama retreads.) New leaders will need to rise up first.

4. Policies made by non-serious people will be ignored. (This pretty much means the entire US political class as it currently stands.)

haifa ac  11:14:34 GMT - 11/28/2020  
"who is pushing your buttons on this one."


Paris ib  10:40:30 GMT - 11/28/2020  
I personally doubt that. She is one of least popular people in the US: Nurse Ratched

Results on the 6th of January.

Till then you have time to identify who is pushing your buttons on this one.

haifa ac  10:37:29 GMT - 11/28/2020  
Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump in 2016. Why do you think?

Paris ib  10:35:39 GMT - 11/28/2020  
I don't agree with you. Can you cope with disagreement?

If not, then likely you have a problem.

80 million Americans voted for Trump. Why do you think?

haifa ac  10:29:05 GMT - 11/28/2020  
From the Games of Thrones:
"If you have to tell others that you are the king--you are NOT the king."
Trump is a MASS MURDERER who HAD TO BE REMOVED. This was not elections about the next president of the USA. The Majority did NOT VOTE for Biden. THEY Voted AGAINST TRUMP!
When will you get this?!

Paris ib  10:19:47 GMT - 11/28/2020  

The US election has been divisive and contested and the evidence of fraud is there even if some is merely circumstantial.

FWIW I don't remember a US President who I thought was fit for the job and I think all our politicians are corrupt buffoons. Exceptions are few. Democracy is an illusion. In the EU the illusion has been discarded altogether. That's where we're at. You think Biden is working for the American people? I don't.

haifa ac  10:12:50 GMT - 11/28/2020  
I think all of you blind Trump supporters are wonderful and smart people (DRS2 included).
It is your temporary delusions that befuddle me.
I remember when Trump was elected there were vehement attacks against him: He got his money from his father....he filed for 6 bankruptcies....he cheated on his taxes...he is fraud....he is basically a spoiled rich kid who did nothing.....
I told those idiots the same thing I am telling you:
If Trump is such a nincompoop then his victory is amazing and he is very talented.
Biden is NO IDIOT. He won fair and square in spite of all your futile attempt to call otherwise. He will be a good president and all your trials to belittle him are spiteful and not realistic.
We shall see.

Paris ib  10:03:19 GMT - 11/28/2020  

Why personal attacks? Is that all you've got?

This will be decided on the 6th of January, till then sit tight.

The election, regardless of outcome, will leave a deeply divided nation and a power void. FWIW according to certain theorists the aim of a contested election is exactly that.

So cut the know-it-all, partisan crap. We are all being played. You just don't happen to realise that.

The Last Hurrah

haifa ac  09:00:39 GMT - 11/28/2020  
jk, you are right. That is nothing compared with what goes on in Israel social networks. The blind support for Trump here was so large (he is considered the Messiah here for his transfer of the Embassy to Jerusalem and stopping the Iran agreement). They are so vehement in their arguments that every little judge in Pennsylvania, or tweet by Trump (who?) about his imminent victory and how the Supreme court will void the elections--that it is almost pathetic and imbecilic....and in the end--funny. They are so insulted by the inconceivable victory of such an incompetent idiot like Biden over their invincible hero that their psyche does not allow them to admit defeat.
It is a syndrome. It is called: "AlkaSeltzer "I Can't Believe I Ate The Whole Thing"

Paris ib  08:57:49 GMT - 11/28/2020  
Deep state loses again.

Trump's 2nd term and this time we get prosecutions and people get removed. Kissinger and Albright got fired already.


jkt abel  08:54:52 GMT - 11/28/2020  
well, china imposed tariff on australian wine...dont play with a dragon

Paris ib  08:53:03 GMT - 11/28/2020  


What a joy you are! Misinformed and angry.

Looks like the Constitutional Path to a Trump 2nd term is already being outlined. Look up Fareed on CNN.

We won't know till January 6th.

Meanwhile enjoy your Covid induced / China trade related / household debt recession. It will be epic.

Sydney jk  08:19:30 GMT - 11/28/2020  
IB AND CB. You 2 clowns need to become cellmates and share all the conspiracy theories you want...among other thigs. Even if this election was rigged do you really think USA would have survived another 4 years of Trump. You 2 f-uc-k-wits are clearly delusional.

Paris ib  07:01:13 GMT - 11/28/2020  

Yeah, all the creepy CIA stuff.

Glad to see this is widespread knowledge!

dc CB  00:31:20 GMT - 11/28/2020  
MM, ib

weekend reading. it may clarify things. along with the Adams Curtis doc I linked.

The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War
by Stephen Kinzer

and if you really want to go deep into the weeds.... the OSS and how America got the scientists who got us to the moon and that stable of ICBMs

Operation Paperclip: The Secret Intelligence Program that Brought Nazi Scientists to America
by Annie Jacobsen

Bonus Youtube so you don't have to read.

Author Annie Jacobsen presents a fascinating topic from her new book, Operation Paperclip, and takes questions from the audience. This event was recorded February 26, 2014 at Politics & Prose bookstore in Washington, D.C.

Israel MacroMicro  21:16:44 GMT - 11/27/2020  
very strong (edited) picture, still hitting the nail on the head.
but, what is the solution cb?

I cannot see any theme letting majority of people having control over majority of money, not such control means no change within the "rules" that run the game.

have a great weekend all

Paris ib  20:54:28 GMT - 11/27/2020  
These psychopaths think they rule the world.

They don't.

We do.

Have a great weekend CB

dc CB  20:38:48 GMT - 11/27/2020  
the Murican 2 party system - back in the saddle again

good weekend

dc CB  20:26:40 GMT - 11/27/2020  
I've posted this link several times before. Edward Bernays.

The Century of the Self (TV Docu-Series 2002) complete

Paris ib  18:59:05 GMT - 11/27/2020  
"under pretty much any scenario, we can be pretty sure that come January there will be a power vacuum in the Executive and roughly half of all US Americans will consider that the election has been stolen. That kind of power vacuum, or even a duopoly, is very dangerous and typically results in even more chaos and violence."

The worst kind of Ground Hog Day.

The Biden Outlook

Paris ib  18:49:55 GMT - 11/27/2020  

Yeah, I get the impression that Trump found the swamp was deeper and murkier than anything he expected.

The sad thing is that the American people were - and are - so desperate for a politician who wasn't one of the establishment creeps that they turned to Trump as their only hope.

If Trump goes, there is NO-ONE out there. I didn't mind Tulsi Gabbard. But the mainstream people are just awful. I mean: Pelosi? Come on.

It's the same corrupt situation worldwide.

Planned Upheaval Post Election

dc CB  18:43:25 GMT - 11/27/2020  

you get it. it's the people behind the scenes that are brought in.
The rest is Reality TV --- which is ironic, since the first Reality TV Star - 11 years running, who made it to the Oval, refused to play and had to be Canceled.

Paris ib  18:38:29 GMT - 11/27/2020  
France has plans to take off COVID restrictions on January 20. What a coincidence, eh?

Paris ib  18:35:42 GMT - 11/27/2020  

That sounds like a hellish schedule. The whole thing looks to me like something out of Kafka. Ground hog day and it's always a bad election day and it's always gridlock. Meanwhile the creeps behind the global agenda keep on keeping on.

dc CB  18:32:08 GMT - 11/27/2020  
Only game left is the run off elections in the state of Georgia...for 2 Senate seats. Nothing to do with the Executive election(El Presidente), but control of the Senate. Both to democrats = Biden has an American Express Black Card(way better than an Amex Gold card).

All eyes on Jan 5 2021...for Christmas 'Muricans' will be getting another pile of mud and who knows what else. The screws will not be loosen until mid Jan at the earliest.

If not---getting whatever thru... at least 2 years of 'can't get anything done'.

In two years the entire House of Representatives is up for election, so campaigning will start late next year.

Paris ib  18:20:12 GMT - 11/27/2020  
CB I thought the protests were pay for play people brought in to create chaos. I didn't have the impression they were there for any other reason. I kinda expect that to disappear of itself because once the pay cheques stop coming the paid agitators disappear.

Same with Covid really. I don't really buy into much of the story. Locking down was all about disrupting economic activity and causing discontent. I don't know what the plan with that is. If they don't reopen up soon I will be surprised. Buy hey, what do I know?

If this was all aimed at getting a kind of election result... it should all fade with a Biden Presidency. Still don't know what where we go with that....

dc CB  18:13:34 GMT - 11/27/2020  

for your longer term betting plans(formerly know as 'investing strategy) for 2021 Harris-Biden.

any chaos will be, as I noted before, will come from the Newly Disenfranchised - the Progressive Left, who thot that 'peacefull' protesting for 6 months, would win them a place in the Harris-Biden admin. And all those 'progressive' city councils that have pushed 'defunding the police' on their electorates now suffering from increased crime in those cities.

imho - The Harris(former prosecutor)-Biden White House cannot let this stand in Major US cities. Like New York, Seattle, San Fran, Minneapolis, Chicago, DC, Philadelphia, Los Angeles.......

'the rubber will have to meet the road'
you can't run a economy Locking down businesses because of Covid and not using the same type of draconian response to crime.

Paris ib  17:56:49 GMT - 11/27/2020  
CB what's your take on the situation now?

Is Biden going to be the next President?

My understanding is that if he does become the next President then it's back to globalisation.

What I don't really get is China. Obama had this 'Pivot to Asia' thing which looked hostile to China but Biden and son seem to be on the Chinese payroll. So how does that figure?

dc CB  17:14:48 GMT - 11/27/2020  
In 2008, Barack Obama received the names of his entire future cabinet already one month prior to his election by CFR Senior Fellow (and Citigroup banker) Michael Froman, as a Wikileaks email later revealed. Consequently, the key posts in Obama’s cabinet were filled almost exclusively by CFR members, as was the case in most cabinets since World War II.

Michael Froman later negotiated the TPP and TTIP international trade agreements, before returning to the CFR as a Distinguished Fellow.

In 2017, CFR nightmare President Donald Trump immediately canceled these trade agreements – because he viewed them as detrimental to US domestic industry
Trump also canceled other CFR achievements, like the multinational Iran nuclear deal and the UN climate and migration agreements, and he tried, but largely failed, to withdraw US troops from East Asia, Central Asia, the Middle East, Europe and Africa, thus seriously endangering the global US empire built over decades by the CFR and its 5000 elite members.

Unsurprisingly, most of the US media, whose owners and editors are themselves members of the CFR, didn’t like President Trump. This was also true for most of the European media, whose owners and editors are members of international CFR affiliates like the Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission, founded by CFR directors after the conquest of Europe during World War II.

Moreover, it was none other than the CFR which in 1996 advocated a closer cooperation between the CIA and the media, i.e. a restart of the famous CIA Operation Mockingbird. Historically, OSS and CIA directors since William Donovan and Allen Dulles have always been CFR members.

Joe Biden promised that he would form “the most diverse cabinet” in US history. This may be true in terms of skin color and gender, but almost all of his key future cabinet members h

Joe Biden: Return Of The CFR --- Or the real reason Trump got Dumped

dc CB  17:02:10 GMT - 11/27/2020  
but but but but Biden-Harris Won!!!!
Our team won, OrangeManBad, the fas-eest racist is gone.

news MSM won't cover. Portland, something like 120+ days of this and counting.

Portland Rioters Cause Thousands Of Dollars In Damage On Thanksgiving Night

dc CB  22:13:45 GMT - 11/26/2020  
'a vomit milkshake', Matt Taibbi writing about the 2020 election.

My view - we are now playing 'Fantasy Football'.

The website for WestExec Advisors includes a map depicting West Executive Avenue, the secure road on the White House grounds between the West Wing and the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, as a way to show what the consulting firm can do for its clients.

“It is, quite literally, the road to the Situation Room, and it is the road everyone associated with WestExec Advisors has crossed many times en route to meetings of the highest national security consequences,” the firm says.

And staffers are poised to cross it again — en masse.

POLITICO. Transition 2020

The secretive consulting firm that’s become Biden’s Cabinet in waiting

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